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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Thanks for posting. Refreshing to see some real analysis on FR again.

*sigh*. Maybe soon this nightmare will all be over. The nightmare (for me) of even those on the “right’ being deluded by a charismatic figure and his lackeys: Trump and his team.

I supported Trump and voted for him twice. Never again. Even if he runs in 2024. Even if he’s the GOP nominee. Period.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-trump-cant-be-reinstated-as-president-by-august-2021-6

The latest news that he’s apparently giving weight to the idea of being “reinstalled” in August after the audits should be enough for anyone to reach the same conviction. Any sane person at least. Even if it’s not true, even if such reports are “MSM nonsense” made to make him look bad, all he has to do is release a statement saying he has no intention of trying to retake the office before 2024 (25).

If he at least did that, then maybe I wouldn’t be so harsh in my judgement as above. But that he hasn’t, has told me all I need to know about him. The final nail in the proverbial coffin of my opinion about him, and really, I’d submit any rational, independently thinking person.

I would have hoped his ongoing actions since Nov 3 2020 had convinced at least some others that his intentions are, at best, fueled by sycophants feeding him “news” he wants to hear. At worst, they reflect a deeply flawed man, whos primary concern is not the country or its best interests but his ego and attention given to same. But with this final news, I’m simply at a loss in my brain to explain how conservatives can continue to support such a man.

I have promised to post more about the election 2020, proof that the courts *did* “hear the evidence” but rejected it because it wasn’t real evidence, but I just haven’t had the time to deep dive into all the analysis required of the various “proofs” of widespread fraud since then, because the goalposts keep shifting (like on the left, nothing is ever enough). So I’ve decided to hold off, at least for now especially with the ongoing recounts/audits. Besides who knows, maybe it’ll show something interesting (probably not).

Besides it’s not worth it now, his true character is exposed to anyone who isn’t enslaved to a near deification of the man in their mind. I only hope that after such audits, that maybe some more like myself (and apparently you I don’t know though) wake up to the delusion that has somehow taken root in so many who call themselves “conservatives”.

Conservatism, at least that which I’ve always supported, used to be, at least in part, accepting real loss and moving on, pressing onward and accepting defeat as also God’s mysterious will, ultimately resting in the fact that this world is only temporary, and only our soul is eternal. That if something doesn’t go as expected, or as we imagined, we must obey *reality*, and accept it, unlike the left who relies on emotion based “arguments” to further their agenda that denies reality, in a vain (in every sense of the word “vanity”) attempt to preserve one’s personal world view.

Returning to FR on occasion these days only makes me sadly realize that such emotional defensive mechanisms are not only confined to the left. Maybe in time the clear bright line between conservatism and leftism, based on facts and reason and not a defensive mechanism that refuses to deal with reality, may return again.

Hope remains. Thanks again.


161 posted on 06/04/2021 6:57:30 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven; ransomnote; grey_whiskers
Conservatism, at least that which I’ve always supported, used to be, at least in part, accepting real loss and moving on, pressing onward and accepting defeat as also God’s mysterious will.

Spoken like a true loser. You are the perfect Matrix drone. Good luck going back to business as usual, derpo.

People like you are exactly the reason we are where we are in this country.,p> And its people like YOU that destroyed the meaning of the word 'conservative'.

Now, you're either a patriot, a traitor, or hopelessly conditioned by the traitors.

I'll mark you down as option #3, pending further evidence.

GW and Ransom, check THIS one out.

p.s.

Returning to FR on occasion these days...

Its better when you're gone.


163 posted on 06/04/2021 8:09:08 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: FourtySeven
I have promised to post more about the election 2020, proof that the courts *did* “hear the evidence” but rejected it because it wasn’t real evidence, but I just haven’t had the time to deep dive into all the analysis required of the various “proofs” of widespread fraud since then, because the goalposts keep shifting (like on the left, nothing is ever enough). 

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You never actually got around to "deep dive into all the analysis required" but you're here to tell us that, after we watched them resume counting ballots drawn from suitcases under tables as soon as official observers left for the day, after we watched ballot counts flip 40K votes from President To Biden live during a newscast, after countless violations of election law and 10s of thousands of witnesses came forward, finding hundreds of thousands of ballots without so much as a crease on them, watching staff scan ballots multiple times, after late night illicit deliveries of ballots etc. we're the ones who base our opinion on nothing?  We should believe your intentions to one day analyze the data instead of our own lyin' eyes?

164 posted on 06/04/2021 8:23:09 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: FourtySeven

Twirl your bowtie harder, ¿Jeb?


165 posted on 06/04/2021 8:26:22 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: FourtySeven


167 posted on 06/04/2021 8:32:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: FourtySeven
Thanks for posting. Refreshing to see some real analysis on FR again.

Thank You.

I supported Trump and voted for him twice. Never again. Even if he runs in 2024. Even if he’s the GOP nominee. Period.

I voted for him twice and am very likely to vote for GOP primary winner in 2024, whether it's Trump or another.
The extremely delusional posters, mostly Qcult followers, like to dredge up posts made 5 or more years ago to prove one was a never trumper.
They don't get that some of us aren't into the Trump cult of personality... but we did in fact like his policies that he attempted to implement.
Ironicly many of us who supported those exact same policies were banned on FR when we supported Buchanan over Bush.
I remember when the mere thought of "New York liberal Trump" running in 2012 was a hilarious joke.

The latest news that he’s apparently giving weight to the idea of being “reinstalled” in August after the audits should be enough for anyone to reach the same conviction.

Those who believe that have an infantile understanding of what the Supreme Court's role is.

But my analyis has nothing to do with Trump love or Trump hate. I have 30+ years of technical experience and so far everyone who has asserted the election was stolen by voting machines or hacking is blowing smoke up everyone's ass. Fact is most of these "experts" have been outed as having rather poor or non-existent reputations.

The only person thus far who has provided actual actionable evidence thus far is Steven Crowder who has found hundreds maybe thousands of fraudulant voting.

I'm also haven't commented on and are waiting on the Maricopa audits.

168 posted on 06/04/2021 8:38:37 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: FourtySeven

Sentiments and posturing like those espoused in your screed are why I have stopped donating directly to the GOP.


173 posted on 06/05/2021 3:50:48 AM PDT by smileyface ("The illuminati's whole philosophy demands the use, abuse, sacrifice and consumption of children.")
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To: FourtySeven

“Conservatism, at least that which I’ve always supported, used to be, at least in part, accepting real loss and moving on, pressing onward and accepting defeat as also God’s mysterious will, ultimately resting in the fact that this world is only temporary, and only our soul is eternal.”

It’s such a blessing that General Washington accepted loss and rolled over, to the fact that we must accept British rule. We must be good little Republicans, don’t you know.


178 posted on 06/05/2021 8:27:01 AM PDT by Darnright (We live in interesting times)
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To: FourtySeven; bagster

Where’d they dig up this loser?


179 posted on 06/05/2021 9:39:37 AM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: FourtySeven; Rightwing Conspiratr1; smileyface; ransomnote; bagster; grey_whiskers
FourtySeven and Rightwing Conspiratr1 would like to do but doesn't seem to grasp the concept of the 3% social rule. The most important part of the rule is that the concept they're applying must resonate with the group your trying to turn.

This is Erica Chenoweth writing about her report which is about the +3% social rule talked about this in the newyorker (hard leftist but the rule is the same)

What it is if +3% of the population are set on a belief and has a good means to communicate their beliefs they will eventually get the rest of the population to turn their views. This is why they shut us out of social media to slow us down.

I suggest to start the video around 20:30'sh
https://www.bitchute.com/video/XX7Ftac0hNu6/
180 posted on 06/05/2021 9:39:52 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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