Posted on 05/30/2021 6:10:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Tesla Model 3 Performance - Is 1,000 Miles In One Day Possible?
Electric cars are great, but they suck on road trips, right? According to a poll on my channel, the majority of drivers don't want to drive more than 500 miles in a day. If I can drive double that, 1,000 miles, in a day, surely electric cars make a bit more sense for the masses than we might think? We'll look at how long it takes to drive 1,000 miles in a Tesla Model 3 Performance. We'll also cover how much time is spent driving versus charging, how many stops are required, how much energy is required, and how much it all costs.
We'll also look at why I've kept my Tesla Model 3 over the past couple years, looking at the unique features that set Tesla apart from the competition, but also cover the features that aren't great and hold the car back a bit.
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
“Too bad you didn’t watch the video.”
Did watch it, and outside of selling the shirts below the actual Utube screen, he didn’t say a whole lot about the mechanics of the trip other than he traveled less than the amount when he got to the hotel.
The information I found and posted was from people who do this type of evaluation for a living. Everything I put down was about the actual question of whether “Can An Electric Car Travel 1,000 Miles In A Day?”
Using the numbers I found, unless you are allowed to make up a little over an hour with speed, no. The charging times are way too long to provide enough wiggle room in time to do it and with traffic under normal conditions it would not allow the 162 mph top speed for gaining on time. And the cops wouldn’t be pleased either. And the numbers I used were optimal, best charging times with exceptional systems yo9u won’t be lucky enough toe find the whole trip, and the cops went to sleep a little.
In 1975 my father and wife took off from south Fresno in California and drove to MacDill AFB in Florida on a Friday morning and arrived art the front gate of MacDill at 9 p.m. on Sunday. That’s 2665 miles in around 60 hours, two and a half days, stopping for gas, food and getting occasional sleep in the car by the other driver so it could stay moving. And that’s without charging times.
It’s just numbers to show someone’s proof of the question. I believe in facts more than opinions.
wy69
AAA can bring the batteries if you get stuck too. Maybe they can call the triple A battery.
Good point on standardizing the battery.
Informative report, however what is left out of the comparison are repair costs and battery degradation and replacement. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35203450/tesla-model-3-battery-capacity-loss-warranty/ reports, "Our long-term Tesla Model 3 has so far lost 7 percent of its capacity over 24,000 miles... a loss of about 22 miles of rated range from the original 310-mile EPA combined figure. This is based on the range data from the nearly 500 times we've charged our car to 90 percent of its capacity or above..We're not too surprised that we're doing worse than average, as fast charging at Tesla's Superchargers is not great for maximizing the battery's life, and we've gotten fully a third of the energy our car has used that way....Our battery's degradation thus far equates to a drop of roughly 2.9 percent in pack capacity every 10,000 miles, which, if it continues at this rate, would put us at 65 percent capacity at 120,000 miles. That's under the 70-percent-capacity retention specified in Tesla's eight-year/120,000-mile battery warranty for the Model 3 Long Range. However, Tesla makes it clear that in the case of a warranty claim, the car won't necessarily get a new battery, but one that at least meets the minimum 70 percent threshold." And i read the cheapest estimate for an out-of-pocket, uncomplicated battery replacement on the Model S should run at about $12,000-$13,000 ... But, "Parts and labor combined, it cost nearly $16,000 to replace this Tesla Model 3’s battery pack....deally, individual modules can be replaced at a somewhat lower cost, instead of replacing the entire battery pack altogether.".
“If our car’s battery continues to erode at this rate, it will qualify for replacement under Tesla’s warranty.”
“he traveled less than the amount when he got to the hotel.”
Yeah, only traveled 970 miles or so.
Yes, the Tesla software also shows where chargers are available.
And if the only available charging port is beyond your remaining range?
You have no choice but to go to the one where people are lined up.
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That must be why he had such a problem finding one, huh?
Of course he didn’t have a problem. He planned it that way so he could present a smooth experience for his video. Not everybody who drives has that luxury.
You might have missed the statement in the video where he points out that Kalifornia has plenty of charging stations. But by saying that he is also conceding that other areas of the country are not as well endowed.
You must not have read my initial post where I pointed out that he chose a low traffic day for his stunt. In other words, something other than a holiday weekend or other heavy travel day.
That’s when the problems of insufficient capacity show up.
If data from a given charger location indicates, for example, that 50 charging ports would be enough to prevent a wait time issue at absolute peak demand times, would it be economically justifiable to provide that capacity, knowing that 95% of the time 40 of those ports would stand idle?
Probably not.
“Yeah, only traveled 970 miles or so.”
But the intent was not just to get there, but to do it under 24 hours, He missed by a couple of hours and the added miles would have cost him more time. If he was 30 miles short, he would have to add another 15 minutes at 60 mph.
He didn’t make it and he had the newest of the Teslas with the best mileage distance and the fasting recharge if the right equipment could have been found at both fillings. Driving fossil fuels has a certain amount time saving with fill ups and driving distances per tank. And there are a few other political pluses to using gasoline in lieu of electricity. Stops wars for one.
wy69
You’re just grasping at straws.
I forced myself to watch the entire video. The first time I skipped a bunch of it. He mentions the car is suppose have a max range of 310 miles, but in reality it s more like 250. That is because you only charge the battery to 80% most of the time. He mentions that he operated the car between 20% - 80% charge during the trip. The trip computer plans for a charge at 20% remaining. Under ideal conditions that is about 188 miles of range per charge. Obviously the driver can override that. He mentioned he was comfortable charging at 15% remaining. He also mentions he mad a total of 6 charging stops during the drip. I would assume that doesn’t include the full charge before he left.
Sure. I just don’t worship at the same temple you do.
Please remove me from your ping list.
Thanks.
The Gods, Graves, Glyphs ping list is the only one I have you on.
Yes, although as I provided,
Our battery's degradation thus far equates to a drop of roughly 2.9 percent in pack capacity every 10,000 miles, which, if it continues at this rate, would put us at 65 percent capacity at 120,000 miles. That's under the 70-percent-capacity retention specified in Tesla's eight-year/120,000-mile battery warranty for the Model 3 Long Range. However, Tesla makes it clear that in the case of a warranty claim, the car won't necessarily get a new battery, but one that at least meets the minimum 70 percent threshold.
None of this means the Telsa can not be more economical than a comparable gas (or even diesel?) but that there are other aspects that must be factored in, this being one of them. But with advances in battery technology I myself think electric is superior, as long as charging supply holds. Nuke power is sadly non-PC.
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