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WORLDOMETER COVID-19 Deaths in USA 5/24/2021: 325 with 19,866 new cases
Worldometer ^ | May 24, 2020

Posted on 05/24/2021 7:55:10 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: covid19

1 posted on 05/24/2021 7:55:10 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m afraid the new 1 May cycle count regulation has rendered this data non useful. Suggest tracking Excess Deaths from the CDC page. Updated weekly on Wednesday and you have to look back 5 weeks.

It’s about the only thing left not corrupted.


2 posted on 05/24/2021 8:00:23 PM PDT by Owen
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"It’s about the only thing left not corrupted..."

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3 posted on 05/24/2021 8:03:18 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Owen

can you link it


4 posted on 05/24/2021 8:03:23 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: MinorityRepublican

It appears that those who offer little to the argument are out in full force tonight. Thank you for actually presenting a standardized data set that continually affirms the decrease of cases, the control of the pandemic, and the efficacy of vaccination. The disruptors will disrupt. Just remember you live rent free in their heads.


5 posted on 05/24/2021 8:16:13 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: Owen

Cycle count does not effect deaths. Deaths and hospitalizations have always been a better indicator than cases. Pretty much everyone here has been saying “cases don’t mean anything” for at least 9 months. The lower cycle count has resulted in a significant increase in the new deaths/new cases from about 1.4% to 2%, by eliminating most false positives.


6 posted on 05/24/2021 8:19:28 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: gas_dr

My pleasure, Doc.

It's a damned shame that Biden Administration is going to take credit for President Trump's Operation Warp Speed which got the vaccines mass produced in record time.

7 posted on 05/24/2021 8:41:40 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

In before some brainless idiot calls these phony numbers standardized data and meaningful.

Countries like the US that keep changing the way they count cases make these trend charts meaningless.


8 posted on 05/24/2021 9:42:37 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: ETCM

Misunderstanding. I am talking about declaration of infection, dead or alive.

The initial CDC stuff was about reducing workload investigating breakthroughs that were Covid positive at higher cycle counts. They said not to submit reports unless Covid positive at lower (27) cycle count.

But then it appeared that non vaccinated people could be declared Covid positive with cycle counts above 28.

This is just wrong. Don’t have to suspect any sort of conspiracy. It’s just wrong to have different cycle count definitions for vaccinated vs unvaccinated, whether dead or alive.

Link: hmmm

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Scroll down to the reqmt for CT of <28. 30 and 35 have been used as a norm before now.


9 posted on 05/24/2021 10:46:25 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen

Agreed. Cycle count should be the same regardless of vaccination status. I seem to remember 25 amplification cycles for the most common test found about 99% of clinically significant cases. Anyone who is negative at 28 cycles but positive at 30 or 35 is almost certainly a false positive, regardless of vaccination or previous infection status. You might have a tiny amount of dead viral RNA in you that your immune system already killed, but that is not clinically significant.


10 posted on 05/24/2021 11:46:17 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: gas_dr
The Socratic method searches for general, commonly held truths that shape beliefs and scrutinizes them to determine their consistency with other beliefs. The basic form is a series of questions formulated as tests of logic and fact intended to help a person or group discover their beliefs about some topic; exploring definitions, and seeking to characterize general characteristics shared by various particular instances.

Your tag line claims to seek the truth, but only if you agree with "the truth".

The "disrupters" are anyone that disagrees with the phony world meter, left leaning slant on ALL SUBJECTS, not just over blown covid death numbers.

There was a time, Doc, just a few months ago, that you were rational on this subject, but you got woke.

SAD.

11 posted on 05/25/2021 4:27:57 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: Owen

Lies in full color!! Kozak with crayons.


12 posted on 05/25/2021 4:29:12 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: USS Alaska

I politely disagree

The number of conspiracy theories are rampant snd the ratcheting up of abuse of those of us who express counter arguments to vaccination is quite ridiculous. I have been privately threatened to be doxxed, been impugned professionally by Having one particularly rabid member ask me how I had time to post if I am really a doctor (for 20 years free republic has been a source of news and analysis that i look forward to reading after work). We have arm chairs experts promoting half truths for an agenda. And when someone says the emperor has no clothes the abuse gets worse

That’s why I changed my tag line. Sometimes after getting hit several times one swings back.

You and I can disagree all day long and still be civil and kind. One of the detractors admitted to someone else to being proud of being a bully. That’s the crap that happens at DU. I am not woke on the issue. I have evaluated the data from what I see clinically everyday for the last 18 months and made educated judgments. Nothing more snd nothing less. Some, however, seem to take it personally to the point of character assassination if you disagree. Such are the alinsky techniques I reference.

If we went to find the truth we need to debate the facts and opinions eith candor, intelligence and good will. Conspiracy theories hardly meet any of these conditions.

I look forward to future interactions and thank you for the feedback. I will take it under consideration and adjust if necessary.


13 posted on 05/25/2021 5:34:01 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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Wow!!!! Too bad Ken Osmond is no longer alive to read the all the "Eddie Haskell" copycat style in your "Oh woe is me" diatribe on FR.

Geeezzzzz gas_dr (AKA "Eddie Haskell") an OUTSTANDING typewritten performance!! If Ken were still alive I'm sure even HE would be impressed!!

NOBODY is buying what you want to sell anymore "Eddie", no matter how much you continue to totally fail trying.

People are waking up FAST to your daily garbage facts and posts.


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14 posted on 05/25/2021 6:00:29 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

How many daily threads with these lies do we need on FR? And why do the Covidians keep posting them? I guess they’re trying to impress their communist masters.


15 posted on 05/25/2021 6:59:31 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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To: musicman

funny you ask for contributions in the same post you name call and denigrate long time freepers. Then post threads wondering why donations are down. Hmmmm


16 posted on 05/25/2021 12:55:33 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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