Addressing The "Concern" Posted On Free Republic That Deaths Following Covid-19 "Vaccination" And Published To VAERS Are COINCIDENTAL And Not Useful Indicators of Safety

I began writing a reply to a post in the forum and decided to make it a standalone thread given both the level of effort expended and the frequency I encounter the issue at hand.

FReeper assertion seen in the forum: There are convincing analyses showing that VAERS is only reporting 1/4 of events (including deaths). That’s still almost 4,000 deaths that should be in VAERS, essentially matching what we see in VAERS. If those assumptions are true, it is entirely coincidental deaths. If you take issue with an assumption please specific.

51% of events published to VAERS [5/21 data] were reported during December and January. 36 million doses of the Covid 'vaccines' were administered during those 51 days.

Data analyst Albert Benevenidos (sp) used the ratios of adverse event categories (hospitalizations, deaths, office vists etc.) from those records to estimate number of adverse events reported, but not published, by the CDC during the administration of an additional 230 million doses from February to May.

Using that method, Benvidos estimates there have actually been 12,200 deaths and over 1 million adverse events reported to the CDC, most of which have not been published. That's close to your 14K.

However, based on a Harvard study which found only about 1% of actual events are ever reported to the CDC, he adjusted that figure. Instead of multiplying by 100 to estimate total numbers of actual post vaccine deaths, he cut that factor to be extremely conservative, as if half of all Covid deaths are reported to VAERS, an impossibly low ratio.

Assuming 1/2 of all post 'vaccine' deaths were being reported to the CDC , the total adjusted estimate for adverse events following Covid 'vaccination' is 610,000 deaths and 50 million adverse events, according to Benevenidos' analysis.

The CDC is not making much of an effort to monitor safety during the purported Covid 'pandemic' or else it would be vigilant in updating and maintaining VAERS promptly. To clear the air, the CDC can easily refute these numbers by uploading the reports it has received but not published.

Also, there are numerous reports of doctors and patients not able to file reports to the CDC.

On the CDC's 'how to' page for reporting to VAERS, the linked table of 'reportable events' which lists the names of vaccines, does not include Covid. That makes sense, at first, because the Covid 'vaccines' are not actually vaccines. However, it certainly must discourage some from reporting their struggles.

So the numbers of reports the CDC is throttled back by challenges the patients face just to file, as are the CDC's decision to publish only a fraction of the reports it receives to VAERS.

And of course, the Harvard research which found only about 1% of actual vaccine adverse events were ever reported to the CDC was conducted was prior to Covid lockdowns which reduced medical and nursing home staff available to file such reports.

I've heard that we 'must understand' that the most vulerable were vaccinated first and therefore early reports contained a higher proportion of deaths. I don't know if that's true, because based on the conduct of the CDC since the start of the Plandemic, I'm not willing to assume that the CDC is randomly selecting which records it will upload. They could be selectively withholding death reports based on age or other combinations of demographics and instead publishing less severe adverse events.

Remember that reports from December and January are not updated after the patient leaves the ER or hospital, so if those who were surviving during their ER visit, hospital stay or other event reported to VAERS, but continued a downward spiral and died afterwards, their deaths are not counted.]

Note that the table below does not include records in which a check mark was missing from a specific field in VAERS, but 'death' or 'autopsy request' was typed in the 'event descripton' for the patient.

Also, of the 80 deaths published to VAERS during this time period but classified as vaccine type 'unknown' about half of the 20 I reviewed had text in the description field which indicated they were Covid 'vaccines'. Therefore, some numbers are still under reported in the table below.

Note that 270 deaths following Covid vaccines published to VAERS are 'unknown age' and are not shown in the table.

There are many complications with poorly maintained data in VAERS which impedes understanding of the impact vaccines may be having on the public. Again, if the CDC would like to clarify these concerns during what they claim is a national emergency updating and correcting data in VAERS, they have the tax payer funds to do so.

The CDC tracks every vaccination carefully, something they would do even if they weren't preparing to roll out vaccine passport mandates.

I believe the NIH/CDC/FDA have the IT and access/infrastructure to match data from other federal or state databases, like US death certificates, with with vaccine records by Social Security Number, if they wanted to. Hospital software tracks annual deaths by type (accidental death versus illness) so surely there are medical databases which could be matched to vaccination databases - likely both types of data are sitting in the same system(s) right now.

Do you think 610,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccinations' is an over estimate? Okay, cut it in half. So the estimate becomes 'only' 305,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccination'. Is everything alright now?

If you think the CDC is concerned, you'd be wrong. Their only concern is concealing this information from the public.

LMAO!!

Nothin’ like a big bowl of “Self-Important Soup”.

Crackers anyone?

#UnlicensedMedicalAdviceAgain

#DontWorryImResearchedCerifiied

#VAERSTheNewQ

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ransomnote: David, after I previously dismantled your inferior arguments with ease, you said I was hostile and, while insinuating I post inferior content and lack your lofty 'credentials', you didn't need my posts going forward. I pictured you in a fetal position under a desk when you wrote that.

You would later pose your whimpering request as a mutually agreed upon truce. However, we were never at war; the problem you were having was that you couldn't win our debate with your cognitive skills, and without the facts on your side.

Soon you found you couldn't resist the urge to attack my qualifications to post my opinion on FR, and then when I confronted you, said you would not do so going forward.

You then forgot you were hiding from me and crawled out to once again attack my right to post my opinion, this time saying I post to be self-important and that I'm committing a crime (practicing medicine w/o a license).

A more self-aware person would likely be embarrassed to seek the titled-playing field as diligently as you do.

In the United States, freedom of speech permits me to express opinions on topics like medicine and helicopters, without having either a medical license or a pilot's license. I continue to post data from the Federal VAERS database, and the work of qualified researchers and physicians.

The latest attempts to shut down dissent have a Soviet edge to them - increasingly I am seeing assertions of liability, 'dangerous' opinions, mental instability etc. Thankfully, we aren't the Soviet Union or the PRC YET.

“ ransomnote: David, after I previously dismantled your inferior arguments with ease, you said I was hostile and, while insinuating I post inferior content and lack your lofty ‘credentials’, you didn’t need my posts going forward. I pictured you in a fetal position under a desk when you wrote that.”

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Oh yes, you dismantled my arguments. You totally devastated me.
I fell into the fetal position.
Wow. Super Ego much?
Self declared winner........

I went back and re-read postings.
You indeed were insulting but not just to me but to an entire group of professional rescuers.
So the next Rah Rah for First Responders, Frontline workers from you, I’ll know it’s all for show.
Your envy over my Real Life experience was obvious.
As you threw in a “yawn”.
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I did say you are a challenge to debate.
But, do you know why??
Because you flood post with copy and paste and numerous links.
A variety of debunked, repetitive, “Expert Blogs” Twitter, and of course your beloved VAERS. Flooding is a tactic you use.
So debating what I find to be undebatable is indeed a challenge.

Flooding a thread or post with page after page of copy and paste and links doesn’t make you smart.
It actually buries any point you were trying to make, if you were?? Who knows?
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“ You would later pose your whimpering request as a mutually agreed upon truce. However, we were never at war; the problem you were having was that you couldn’t win our debate with your cognitive skills, and without the facts on your side.”

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The “Truce” was because I sense something brewing.
But what?
My post were being “reviewed” before being posted.
Now why would that happen?
I smelled “set up”.

So I figured you didn’t like or agree with my comments and I felt the same with yours. So, why bother?

As far as winning a debate.......are you serious?
That statement tells me how important you really think your debates, threads, or comments are. What does anyone get here for “winning” a debate? A forehead sticker? Trophy?
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“ You then forgot you were hiding from me and crawled out to once again attack my right to post my opinion, this time saying I post to be self-important and that I’m committing a crime (practicing medicine w/o a license).”

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Hiding?
No, I was avoiding.
There are only two or three Q people I might converse with. I avoid the others because they call in the Mods when they read something they don’t like. Free speech uh?

By this point in your comments you must have realized there isn’t really any meat..........so you go ahead and make a claim (aka Lie) that I said you were criminal in your post.
In fact (I know you love facts) I never said anything about criminality, crimes nor did I even imply that.
You. Made. That. Up. Probably to spice up your lame comments.

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“ The latest attempts to shut down dissent have a Soviet edge to them - increasingly I am seeing assertions of liability, ‘dangerous’ opinions, mental instability etc. Thankfully, we aren’t the Soviet Union or the PRC YET.”
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Oh brother. Back to the drama and victim hood.

No one is attempting to shut you or anyone down.
No one is demanding anyone get vaccinated.
No one is heaping praise on vaccinated people or cursing the people who decided not to get vaccinated.
No one is being paid by anyone to post information that counters yours.
No one secretly works for the CDC, Fauci, WHO, NWO, Pfizer, or Moderna.

That’s something many of you Q people need to work on.
Paranoia. Everything is a conspiracy.

So please, carry on.
I look forward to another copy and paste of Tenpenny, who now says by this fall death and despair shall arrive. Apparently next month is her 6 month claim so she needs to move the goal post.

#LiveActionRolePlayIsStillNotReal

Wow. Super Ego much?

You attempt to refute physicians with multiple board certifications and decades of experience now specializing in treating Covid-19 with pompous lectures about the 'circle of life' and your experience as a paramedic, so I assume you're the resident Super Ego.

You indeed were insulting but not just to me but to an entire group of professional rescuers.

I refuted your elevation of unrelated content (e.g., bee stings) to the status of Covid-19 expertise. I don't know anyone else who claims to be a paramedic who needs to be seen as having superior judgement to experts regarding vaccines. YMMV

So the next Rah Rah for First Responders, Frontline workers from you, I’ll know it’s all for show.

The next time I praise, thank or pray for First Responders will be for REAL First Responders and for their actual service, not their Covid-19 expertise.

Your envy over my Real Life experience was obvious.

You need to feel as though others envy you. We don't.

I did say you are a challenge to debate.
But, do you know why??

The facts are not on your side. You cannot carry your point with anyone who is in possession of a moderate amount of the facts.

Because you flood post with copy and paste and numerous links.
A variety of debunked, repetitive, “Expert Blogs” Twitter, and of course your beloved VAERS. Flooding is a tactic you use.
So debating what I find to be undebatable is indeed a challenge.

Flooding a thread or post with page after page of copy and paste and links doesn’t make you smart.
It actually buries any point you were trying to make, if you were?? Who knows?

Translation: You don't offer evidence and I supply a small portion of evidence which proves you wrong.

Flooding a thread or post with page after page of copy and paste and links doesn’t make you smart.
It actually buries any point you were trying to make, if you were?? Who knows?

Translation: You can't supply any evidence to support your assertions but you keep posting the same false assertions over and over again. Therefore, you want me to retype known facts each time I supply them to slow me down and waste my time.

The “Truce” was because I sense something brewing.
But what?
My post were being “reviewed” before being posted.
Now why would that happen?
I smelled “set up”.

I didn't request Admin's assistance so I think it's just your fear that smells.

There's a pervasive pattern on FR of those claiming their unrelated, anonymous claims to expertise should displace researchers, doctors, and specialists those who put their names, credentials and faces before the public knowing they will be attacked.

As far as winning a debate.......are you serious?
That statement tells me how important you really think your debates, threads, or comments are. What does anyone get here for “winning” a debate? A forehead sticker? Trophy?

Protection and survival of Americans and America, that's all. We're under biological attack and I want people to be able to access the truth despite your efforts to deny it, as it is also denied in our government, social media and MSM platforms.

There are only two or three Q people I might converse with. I avoid the others because they call in the Mods when they read something they don’t like. Free speech uh?

I'm on FR for the free speech. Throughout Trump's administration FR is the place we can say what we want. Sounds like you were not adhering to FR rules.

By this point in your comments you must have realized there isn’t really any meat..........so you go ahead and make a claim (aka Lie) that I said you were criminal in your post.
In fact (I know you love facts) I never said anything about criminality, crimes nor did I even imply that.
You. Made. That. Up. Probably to spice up your lame comments.

The assertion that I'm practicing medicine without a license is part of the 'dangerous' accusations meant to chill dissent. It's not a crime, and I am not legally liable for disagreeing with you. You prop up claims of liability to try to give your opinions weight.

Oh brother. Back to the drama and victim hood.

Those drama/victim tactics you use don't work. You still are not in possession of the facts.

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