Posted on 05/24/2021 2:18:06 PM PDT by ransomnote
I began writing a reply to a post in the forum and decided to make it a standalone thread given both the level of effort expended and the frequency I encounter the issue at hand.
FReeper assertion seen in the forum: There are convincing analyses showing that VAERS is only reporting 1/4 of events (including deaths). That’s still almost 4,000 deaths that should be in VAERS, essentially matching what we see in VAERS. If those assumptions are true, it is entirely coincidental deaths. If you take issue with an assumption please specific.
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51% of events published to VAERS [5/21 data] were reported during December and January. 36 million doses of the Covid 'vaccines' were administered during those 51 days.
Data analyst Albert Benevenidos (sp) used the ratios of adverse event categories (hospitalizations, deaths, office vists etc.) from those records to estimate number of adverse events reported, but not published, by the CDC during the administration of an additional 230 million doses from February to May.
Using that method, Benvidos estimates there have actually been 12,200 deaths and over 1 million adverse events reported to the CDC, most of which have not been published. That's close to your 14K.
However, based on a Harvard study which found only about 1% of actual events are ever reported to the CDC, he adjusted that figure. Instead of multiplying by 100 to estimate total numbers of actual post vaccine deaths, he cut that factor to be extremely conservative, as if half of all Covid deaths are reported to VAERS, an impossibly low ratio.
Assuming 1/2 of all post 'vaccine' deaths were being reported to the CDC , the total adjusted estimate for adverse events following Covid 'vaccination' is 610,000 deaths and 50 million adverse events, according to Benevenidos' analysis.
The CDC is not making much of an effort to monitor safety during the purported Covid 'pandemic' or else it would be vigilant in updating and maintaining VAERS promptly. To clear the air, the CDC can easily refute these numbers by uploading the reports it has received but not published.
Also, there are numerous reports of doctors and patients not able to file reports to the CDC.
How To Report An Adverse Event To VAERS (CDC Database) ONLINE Following Covid-19 Vaccination
On the CDC's 'how to' page for reporting to VAERS, the linked table of 'reportable events' which lists the names of vaccines, does not include Covid. That makes sense, at first, because the Covid 'vaccines' are not actually vaccines. However, it certainly must discourage some from reporting their struggles.
So the numbers of reports the CDC is throttled back by challenges the patients face just to file, as are the CDC's decision to publish only a fraction of the reports it receives to VAERS.
And of course, the Harvard research which found only about 1% of actual vaccine adverse events were ever reported to the CDC was conducted was prior to Covid lockdowns which reduced medical and nursing home staff available to file such reports.
Certainly, there are concerns about reports that at nursing homes are under reporting cause of death a level never seen before.
I've heard that we 'must understand' that the most vulerable were vaccinated first and therefore early reports contained a higher proportion of deaths. I don't know if that's true, because based on the conduct of the CDC since the start of the Plandemic, I'm not willing to assume that the CDC is randomly selecting which records it will upload. They could be selectively withholding death reports based on age or other combinations of demographics and instead publishing less severe adverse events.
Remember that reports from December and January are not updated after the patient leaves the ER or hospital, so if those who were surviving during their ER visit, hospital stay or other event reported to VAERS, but continued a downward spiral and died afterwards, their deaths are not counted.]
Note that the table below does not include records in which a check mark was missing from a specific field in VAERS, but 'death' or 'autopsy request' was typed in the 'event descripton' for the patient.
Also, of the 80 deaths published to VAERS during this time period but classified as vaccine type 'unknown' about half of the 20 I reviewed had text in the description field which indicated they were Covid 'vaccines'. Therefore, some numbers are still under reported in the table below.
Note that 270 deaths following Covid vaccines published to VAERS are 'unknown age' and are not shown in the table.
There are many complications with poorly maintained data in VAERS which impedes understanding of the impact vaccines may be having on the public. Again, if the CDC would like to clarify these concerns during what they claim is a national emergency updating and correcting data in VAERS, they have the tax payer funds to do so.
The CDC tracks every vaccination carefully, something they would do even if they weren't preparing to roll out vaccine passport mandates.
I believe the NIH/CDC/FDA have the IT and access/infrastructure to match data from other federal or state databases, like US death certificates, with with vaccine records by Social Security Number, if they wanted to. Hospital software tracks annual deaths by type (accidental death versus illness) so surely there are medical databases which could be matched to vaccination databases - likely both types of data are sitting in the same system(s) right now.
Do you think 610,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccinations' is an over estimate? Okay, cut it in half. So the estimate becomes 'only' 305,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccination'. Is everything alright now?
If you think the CDC is concerned, you'd be wrong. Their only concern is concealing this information from the public.
You sure are quick, I’ll give you that. I don’t look bad for being 67 Years Old, but I don’t look as bad as that Picture.
Just Posted my experience with the Vaccine.
If you don’t want to get it, that is your choice my FRiend.
My Oncologist has kept me alive for fifteen years since I was Diagnosed with Leukemia at age 62. I’ve had multiple Rounds of Chemotherapy in that time and I had to have Plasma Infusion Therapy about six years ago when my Immune System decided to take a short Vacation after the last Chemotherapy Regimen.
I would have bought the Farm had the Plasma Infusion Therapy not worked out since I ended up with multiple Viral Infections in my Lungs. So yes, I decided to listen to my Oncologist once again and I’m still here to tell the Tale.
Awww, you disappoint me, gassy.
I had thought you made of sterner stuff.
I did admire your feistiness and your willingness to engage your opponents with a biting comment.
Is the pressure and the realization that maybe, juusst maybe, you might be wrong, getting to you?
You hang n there, now. Y'hear?
Next thing you know, you'll go running to the man telling tales of drunkness and cruelty.
And then I will fall out of like with you.
Yer killin' me, Smalls.
The people are refusing to succumb to the derp's injection program.
But is it too little, too late?
You are delusional.
You keep using that old chestnut when you know damn well that is the ridiculously rare and comical exception to the rule and NOBODY took it seriously.
But there it is, in your argument. Over and over and over again.
You are not arguing in good faith.
So don’t get a vaccine.
No one cares what you do.
Ranting on Free Republic changes no minds and simply confuses the easily confused.
2700 deaths out of 287,000,000 injections is not a meaningful statistic. Without an assessment of the cause of death, comorbidities, or the age and health status of these reports—the figure is meaningless.
The statistics used in medical studies is usually the purview of people with math degrees and advanced degrees in statistics.
I don’t have that background. I am guessing you don’t either.
These posts are akin to standing by the side of the road, pointing at the sky, and screaming.
I understand that people don’t want the vaccination. I am confident that most of them could not articulate a reason why not. The only reasonable response is “I want to wait longer.” And that’s fine.
More people would die—and younger healthier people would die—if we handed out 287 million peanut butter sandwiches or Shrimp cocktails.
In the next year, almost 11,000 of these 287,000,000 million people will die, every day. How do you explain that?
So, death certificates should not be trusted? Because every one of the has a cause of death listed. Are those made up?
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I debated him several days ago until he stopped replying because he couldn't refute the data, especially that coming out of Great Britain.
biden, fauxi, and the cdc recommending lockdowns, cancellations of events, masks, and vaccines for our citizens to stop the spread of a “deadly virus” while biden opened the border, invited, welcomed, and continues to spread thousands of “disease carrying invaders” across our country during a “global pandemic” reeks of hypocrisy and proves we’re being lied to about the severity of this so called “deadly virus”...
About 1/3 die within the first 2 days following ‘vaccination.’
that raises a research-type question - has the vaccine fully penetrated in 48 hours, with having to migrate thru muscle and various systems before getting to the first cells much less getting those cells cranked up for production?
"Us"? Are you vaxxers a monolith?
To be honest, YOUR posts are carbon copies of each other. I stop reading them halfway through cause I always get a deja vu moment when reading them.
You pound the vax so hard and so often that anybody would think its your job.
Even as the vax narrative crumbles down on your head like the temple upon Samson.
And now, the pushback seems to be getting the better of you. Its hard for a man, when the dreams he's invested in so forcefully fall apart around him. Especially publicly.
The trouble starts at the vaccine location. There is no attempt to identify people who may have medical conditions that may make them more likely to have serious side affects (or worse) from the vaccines.
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True. But it may start earlier. The vaccines were not tested for most co-morbidities so even if they knew what the patient’s medical history was, they’d have no data to compare it with.
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This ^^^^^. We simply do not know the answers to reactions as we did not study the very people are the most likely to have a bad time with anything injected into their system.
If you really study mRNA, the mechanisms by how it works, and how/what it does when it moves throughout our system, you will realize immediately that we could not have tested enough. There are just so many avenues of potential bad outcomes, that it is borderline criminal to release this on the public. Certainly criminal to do it by tricking the people into thinking it is a traditional vaccine. It is not.
Now we see as young as 6 months being proposed. Already lined up for down to 12 yrs old?! On top of that, get a free do ut, or a free beer, or even win a million dollars if you take the vaccination.
What we may very well be witnessing, are crimes against humanity.
Your explanation of the drop-off in VAERS reporting is entirely a manifestation of your imagination.
What COULD have happened. They COULD have lost the paper. They COULD have not made the connection due to time passed after the vax.
Lots of things COULD be. Lets concentrate on what IS, shall we?
I know one thing that IS. At least 4,500 (and climbing) people died shortly after taking the vax. That IS a natural fact.
And it is science, too.
It speaks to both the data quality and the ease with which anyone can file any report that says anything. Do you take Wikipedia posts as gospel? I sure don’t. Anyone can write anything on there.
Further, the main issue is that healthcare providers are required by law to report all series adverse events to VAERS after COVID-19 vaccines regardless of causality. So if you get a COVID shot and get hit by a bus in the parking lot leaving there, it gets reported in VAERS. The vaccine didn’t kill you; the bus did.
The CDC has and does allow (or require) for probable/presumed cases (and deaths and for which hospitals can indeed obtain more gov. funding) based upon as little as having unexplained having shortness of breath or a cough and having traveled to or lived in an area with sustained, ongoing community transmission of SARS-CoV-2. Or shortness of breath and and just being a senior citizen or having “close contact” with another probable case.
Below are the pertinent excerpts far that criteria from the CDC page (emphasis mine) Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
…CSTE realizes that field investigations will involve evaluations of persons with no symptoms and these individuals will need to be counted as cases.
Probable
Clinical Criteria
OR
Epidemiologic Linkage
One or more of the following exposures in the 14 days before onset of symptoms:
OR
The above provide minimal criteria by which a person can be classed as being having Covid-19 and dying of the same. And for which hospitals can indeed obtain more gov. funding for them.[2]
Based upon this criteria we can easily surmise that many cases and deaths are being classed as Covid-19 when in reality they are something else, including the flu (cases of which are very low).
It is true that many Covid-19 cases and deaths are not reported, however, unlike cases in which about have have no symptoms, I think it is far more likely that there are more deaths being reported as by Covid-19 then that are missed. The reason for this is because those with symptoms are much more likely to have been tested and diagnosed as having Covid-19 and those with symptoms of the ones most likely to die.
Footnotes
LOL!! You’ve earned TWO “Stop Posting to Me”’s and ONE “Bless your heart”.
You’re obviously way over the FRVP Group’s target :-)
I am descended from a famous Apache bandit named 'Quick Jimmy' Ames. He ran with Mox Mox the Man Burner, and they both gave Captain Woodrow Call, Texas Ranger, a run for his money,
I'm glad the vax seems to have not effected you, in your weakened state.
But we can't assume that you are the rule, rather than the exception.
Also, congratulations on having s sense of humor. So few of these curmudgeons do.
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