Posted on 05/19/2021 6:20:22 PM PDT by ransomnote
Quote from the video; "The Red Cross says anyone who has received their vaccine cannot donate convalescent plasma to help other Covid-19 patients in hospitals. That plasma is made up of antibodies from people who have recovered from the virus, but the vaccine wipes out those antibodies, making the convalescent plasma ineffective in treating other Covid-19 patients."
I’ve had less than 5 posts pulled in 23 years of posting here.
But I have to admit, the 2 of yours made me smile.
Anytime you can tip off fellow Freepers and management to a total fraud of your caliber is worth it.
Again, thanks for your generous reply.
I think everyone sees the idiocy of the attacks on you.
So I think the things you bring up are more like the monoclonal antibodies instead of CV. But I asked you as to what your experience is as you stated you were a clinician. Sincere questions. When in the disease course are you giving convalescent plasma and what has been the outcomes?
I am relatively impressed with bamlanivimab and combination monoclonals. I have seen these work pretty well. Is this not a better modality than convalescent plasma?
I am glad you are proud of your bad behaviors. Speaks volumes.
“I have a posse list “
LOL!
Here, here OOPS! It’s hear, hear.
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I AGREE with everything you just said! You are WINNING this argument because you have facts on your side as opposed to the phony self proclaimed medical people on here.
I used to be a brain surgeon, but I gave it up to become a rocket scientist here on FR.
Indeed
(In case you don’t yet have one...)
YOU two need to get a room......
Classy. Threats. Juvenile sexual innuendos. Pulled comments. Your body of work is quite amazing this evening.
Astounding public cowardice.
I would never admit to your level of cowardice.
If I couldn’t support my position I would just say so.
Absolutely correct. Doctors don’t know $hit about vitamins and nutrition.
They are attached at the wallet to big pharma. Drugs, drugs, drugs, that’s all they know. The $ kickbacks are nice too.
Doctors are mostly worthless. Over-educated, over-paid, maskholes!
Your’s isn’t!!!
ANSWER #139!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(you are SO lame “Eddie”!!)
The vaccine overrides your natural immune system. My question is - does this wear off at some point in time and your immune system return to normal?
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I’ve not heard a timeline from unbiased sources. Since there’s no medical proof to back them up. They don’t want to speculate.
The vaccine was not patterned on the live virus, so it would be impossible to have the same spike protein as the live virus.
The fact that the vaccine triggers a different antibody from the ones the body produces naturally in response to Covid-19 is a hush hush secret.
Early in the vaccine rollout, a man sickened abruptly after vaccination (in his 30s or 40s). His doctor said the vaccine had triggered the production of antigens different from the ones produced by the vaccine. He died. Websites with that info were scrubbed squeaky clean of that information so the only thing left is the social media account image.
Likely others treating the illness in patients will have proof but it’s scorched earth for anyone who talks about it.
The experts don’t agree on the longevity of the ‘vaccine’ spike proteins and I think the body produces both natural and vax spikes, and then the spikes just out-compete the natural antigens. So both may be present but the vax spike may dominate to the point it doesn’t matter that small amounts of the other are present. Some theorize this change is permanent only because they don’t know by what mechanism it would end.
Some people are alergic to the vax spike protein. They get injected and start having anaphylaxis or inflammatory illness trying to contend with it. However, there is no way for physicians to halt the production of the spike protein so the body keeps producing the spikes and attacking the spikes where it finds them. :(
With time, they may find a way to deactive these vax spikes. With time, they start having an idea how long the spikes will be produced.
The model of the vax was to inject the arm and only the area around the injection would produce the spikes. But then it was discovered the vax cells were ‘leaking’ to other parts of the body so it got harder to guestimate how long and where this impact would be experienced.
Whatever noobie!!!
Snowflake may be an apt description, musicman.
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The word ‘snowflake’ came to my mind too, when I read his whimpering post. *smh*
Anybody can search “convalescent plasma” and see the dismal results.
See post 168. You were presented with data on point to your qUestion. If you don’t like the data so be it
Reduced to a crying puddle demanding answers already given isn’t all that great of look for you. You seem a bit out of tune there music man. But that’s what happens when your arguments fall flat instead of being sharp.
Hey you’re back with more idiocy!
Hope the support of fellow idiots makes you feel good.
Another study casts doubt on ‘convalescent plasma’ as COVID-19 treatment
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-convalescent-plasma-covid-treatment.html
Convalescent Plasma Flops for Hospitalized COVID Patients
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/92659
Convalescent plasma is ineffective for covid-1
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4072
NIH Halts Trial of Convalescent Plasma for Mild COVID-19
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210303/nih-halts-trial-of-convalescent-plasma-for-mild-covid-19
Convalescent plasma not recommended to treat COVID-19, government panel says
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/convalescent-plasma-not-recommended-treat-covid-19-government-panel-says-n1239025
Injecting critically ill coronavirus patients with the blood of survivors does NOT speed up their recovery or improve survival chances, major study finds
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9134277/Convalescent-plasma-does-NOT-work-Doctors-pause-trial-drug-no-proof-works.html
Donated plasma from Covid-19 survivors is of no benefit for hospital patients, study finds
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-convalescent-plasma-recovery-trial-uk-b1818417.html
I hope Jim reads this thread soon. The Viking Kitties have a lot of work to do to get FR back to a somewhat state of normalcy. B.V.
B.V.=Before “vax-holes”.
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