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An excellent overview of the issue of: WHO IS -- AND IS NOT -- A "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN"?
1 posted on 05/19/2021 11:41:12 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner
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Lets talk about Kamala Harris

Her parents were on student visas when she was born


2 posted on 05/19/2021 11:42:50 AM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns
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This is not ‘rocket science’. We the people are government..two citizen parents are required to birth their child on American soil.. The founders gave NOBODY else that power.. but since the Garden Party established, the devil is in the details!


3 posted on 05/19/2021 11:46:42 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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You will be vociferously attacked by the fans of the ineligibles.


6 posted on 05/19/2021 11:50:38 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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We have had two recent opportunities to take this to SCOTUS: Obama and Harris. SCOTUS does not want it, and the GOP lacks the spherical orbs to fight it.


7 posted on 05/19/2021 11:52:17 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal.)
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Many of us here have spoken of this. Not rocket science.


11 posted on 05/19/2021 12:13:31 PM PDT by exnavy
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Prior to the Federal Constitution, all 13 States were instructed to draw up a State Constitution...which they did.

The Federal Constitution covered all 13 states and future states. Remember, it was about 10 years before the Bill of Rights was added.

Go to the Avalon Project to reach each State Constitution. Very informative as many of the Bill of Rights objects were included in those Constitutions.

14 posted on 05/19/2021 12:24:36 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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15 posted on 05/19/2021 12:33:31 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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I cannot recall if the letter that John Jay wrote to Bernardo del Campo, dated Madrid 3 Nov. 1781, came up for discussion way back when Cruz was running. It addresses a birth circumstance quite like Cruz’s, and how a Mr. Vaughan asked Jay to let him take an oath of Allegiance before him, as Vaughan desired to become a American Citizen.

Vaughan was born in England, his father was English, his mother American. (Similar to Cruz)

We see here, in this letter, that in 1781 such a circumstance of birth did NOT produce a Natural Born Citizen.

We all know that John Jay wrote that letter to Geo. Washington, and straightaway the “Natural Born Citizen” requirement was introduced into the draft of the Constitution.

So, here is one letter, written by Jay, which shows that in 1781 a child born outside of the US,to an American mother, who is married to a non-citizen - is most definitely NOT a US citizen.
(I apologize if I didn’t explain this well - I am fairly exhausted today)


18 posted on 05/19/2021 1:18:49 PM PDT by Ladysforest (Racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia and vulgarity - with just a smattering of threats and violence)
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Completely ignores the definition used by Blackstone derived from English Common Law, which is the backbone of the American legal system. It does so in favor of a Swiss definition applying Civil Law which is foreign to the American legal system.

https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_4_citizenships1.html

“The children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges of such. In which the constitution of France differs from ours; for there, by their jus albinatus, if a child be born of foreign parents, it is an alien.”


21 posted on 05/19/2021 1:37:18 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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27 posted on 05/19/2021 2:22:06 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES US! IT DETESTS TRUMP!!)
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28 posted on 05/19/2021 2:22:41 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES US! IT DETESTS TRUMP!!)
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What about the military? Both my wife and I were born in the US but both of our children were born in Germany when we were stationed there. My daughter was born in the US Army hospital at Landstuhl. But to further complicate matters, my son was born in West Berlin while the city was legally still under Allied occupation. He was born in the US Army hospital in the American sector while I was a member of the US Occupation Forces. At that time, the West German government did not exercise sovereignty over West Berlin. Each Allied power, US, Britain and France, was sovereign over its sector. Both of my children have birth certificates issued by the US State Department that records the birth of a US citizen born abroad. So, are my children Natural Born Citizens or not?
48 posted on 05/20/2021 7:32:35 AM PDT by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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51 posted on 05/20/2021 12:59:16 PM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' Grandma - multi issue voter)
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