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Scientist find a loophole in Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
Live Science ^ | 05/15/2021 | Ben Turner

Posted on 05/16/2021 9:35:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: Flick Lives
We’re stepping closer to a sort of Star Trek “subspace communication”; instantaneous communication between two locations no matter how far apart.

I actually think that if there are advanced technological species in the universe that this is how they communicate, and that radio waves are a very short lived technology. We don’t rely on smoke signals or pony express anymore. I’d estimate that radio communications only last around 200 years in the lifespan in a technologically progressing species. And the odds of two species employing this technology for another to detect it (remember it can take centuries to reach another star) are zilch.

”Hey, how come nobody is transmitting their planet’s ‘I Love Lucy’ to us?

21 posted on 05/16/2021 10:06:56 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: BenLurkin

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in quantum mechanics is intrinsic in the mathematical relationship between momentum and position of particles that are fluctuations in the Schrodinger wave equation. This is not simply a matter of imprecise measurement.

The equations of momentum and position are related by the wave equations developed by Fourier in the 18th century. These “Fourier pairs” always change such that the more narrowly you measure the wave of one, the more the other wave spreads out. Because these are wave amplitudes are complex numbers the smallest error you can theoretically achieve is Plank’s constant which is very small (much smaller than any experimental result we have can achieve) but not zero. Bottom line, there are no loopholes to HUP.


22 posted on 05/16/2021 10:13:33 AM PDT by Dave Wright
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To: BereanBrain

I’m going to call on you to help with the little people’s homework... lol


23 posted on 05/16/2021 10:16:11 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: BenLurkin

The crystal chip is being filled
A thousand girls, a thousand thrills
A million ways to spend your time
When we get back, I’ll drop a line


24 posted on 05/16/2021 10:16:43 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Neil Peart just arrived. They will get to the bottom of this.


25 posted on 05/16/2021 10:22:31 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: BenLurkin

So is Schrodinger’s cat alive or dead?


26 posted on 05/16/2021 10:29:16 AM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: BenLurkin
Say my name!


27 posted on 05/16/2021 10:32:09 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: BenLurkin


28 posted on 05/16/2021 10:51:12 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: blueunicorn6

So they’re just being lazy;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LdLIqkmMB0


29 posted on 05/16/2021 10:59:48 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Where words can mean anything they can also mean nothing.)
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To: kosciusko51

white crosses?


30 posted on 05/16/2021 11:07:21 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: BenLurkin

Scientist finds

Scientists find

I refuse to read any further.


31 posted on 05/16/2021 11:07:43 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Paladin2
Is there really ANY there there anywhere?

As I understand it, some quantum details making up the universe around us are not determined "there" until they need to be in order to interact with the larger whole. By the act of trying to detect and record such details we cause them to become "there"...much like when one goes to a new area in a computer game world one causes the computer to load up that game area.

This even seems to apply to things that happened in the past. We can make particles behave differently in the past by how we measure in the present...as if the past had not been written yet.

Important to remember, this only applies to particular things in particular before they become to involved in the rest of the working universe. Its as if the universe were a simulation where certain details do not need to be determined until they are needed...even details about the past.

32 posted on 05/16/2021 11:11:10 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: SeeSharp; Az Joe; RoosterRedux

Can someone tell me what in the world this TV character has to do with Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle or Quantum Mechanics?


33 posted on 05/16/2021 11:13:24 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: blueunicorn6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVEhDrJzM8E


34 posted on 05/16/2021 11:15:45 AM PDT by BipolarBob (This is my chainsaw. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: BenLurkin

Copious use of LSD always makes for amazing physics experiments...


35 posted on 05/16/2021 11:17:10 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: dynachrome
So is Schrodinger’s cat alive or dead?

Yes ...

36 posted on 05/16/2021 11:19:28 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: blueunicorn6
How can they be certain about this?

What you did there. I sees it.

37 posted on 05/16/2021 11:20:48 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Flick Lives

Spot on...


38 posted on 05/16/2021 11:21:00 AM PDT by akcita
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To: Hardastarboard
"Here's what caught my eye - how is this possible?

Light cone? We don't need no stinking light cone!

Rindler horizon? We don't need no stinking Rindler Horizon!

39 posted on 05/16/2021 11:24:50 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: higgmeister

On Breaking Bad, the name of character Walter White’s alter ego came from Werner Heisenberg, a German physicist known as a pioneer of quantum mechanics.


40 posted on 05/16/2021 11:44:52 AM PDT by Az Joe (FREE CHAUVIN!)
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