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Pardoning Draft Evaders: Jimmy Carter Did the Right Thing

Posted on 05/16/2021 7:22:09 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

Hindsight's 20-20 right? As a young lefty I was for it. Was the South worth dying for? It wasn't. The people that went-were they chumps? Misguided perhaps. The seed may have been planted when JFK said we'd pay any price, bear any burden. Was that reckless just as he lived his life? We are much more mature nation as a result. It took Iraq/Afghanistan to open my eyes. Gulf of Tonkin didn't happen. Where were the WMD? After 911 we bomb Iran's infrastructure, put them in the stone age and threaten to do it again. It would not have cost a trillion. Happy Sunday.


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1 posted on 05/16/2021 7:22:09 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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However, not pardoning them would have greatly weakened the future Left in this country ... which would have been better for us than pardoning them.


2 posted on 05/16/2021 7:25:25 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I’ve heard a few still live in Canada and are now citizens.


3 posted on 05/16/2021 7:28:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Bombing Iran makes as much sense as invading Iraq when 16 of the hijackers were Saudis.


4 posted on 05/16/2021 7:29:50 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

When Carter pardoned the draft dodgers I felt like burning my honorable discharge. Another slap in the face to those who served.


5 posted on 05/16/2021 7:31:01 AM PDT by Spok (There are many more things that frighten us than can cause us harm.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

These evolving opinions come with old age. Do we retreat and let the wolves take over the world? It took strongmen like Saddam and Stalin to keep their countries together. Look what happened to Lybia. Haiti is closer to home. It will never join the developed nations. No solution.


6 posted on 05/16/2021 7:31:50 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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So what brought this subject up this morning?

There are pros and cons to everything. You present yourself as a libertarian, but now you are an idealist.

You most like would not like the results of not going after Saddam either.


7 posted on 05/16/2021 7:33:33 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

You have a fairly skewed view on apples and oranges.


8 posted on 05/16/2021 7:35:07 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021 under Biteme.)
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I read through to the 8th sentence.

I am a disabled Vietnam vet, and would pay ticket price to watch a slap-flare installed and ignited in the author’s alimentary canal!!!!


9 posted on 05/16/2021 7:36:00 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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The pardoning act is curious in that it was a poke in the eye to the military. What’s going on today with the new administration? The military is a convenient scapegoat for the left. One of Clintons first actions was to speak out on homosexuals in the military. See a pattern? He went looking for a fight where the military could not stand up for itself.


10 posted on 05/16/2021 7:36:45 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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The guys that went were the good guys, the Americans we wish we had today. They were the representatives of old.America. The ones that didn’t are the torch bearers of the trashy society of today. Try are the allies of Bill Ayers. Don’t make those scum into heroes.


11 posted on 05/16/2021 7:37:15 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Spok

I was a volunteer to help Carter get elected. His pardoning of the Draft Dodgers was the deal breaker for me. I have never voted for any democRAT since. The debacle in the Iranian desert (Operation Eagle Claw) was the “icing on that cake”.


12 posted on 05/16/2021 7:38:22 AM PDT by Howie66 (God Bless TEXAS! #Texit)
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That’s a fact.


13 posted on 05/16/2021 7:39:07 AM PDT by Howie66 (God Bless TEXAS! #Texit)
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I think the pardon help clear the actions of John F’en Kerry from security review that would have precluded him from federal service , but I could be wrong.


14 posted on 05/16/2021 7:41:40 AM PDT by Mackie_Messer
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Who the hell are you to call them misguided? Maybe you’re right, maybe you’re wrong. I just know you have no standing to judge them. And speaking of misguided....


15 posted on 05/16/2021 7:42:16 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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“Bombing Iran makes as much sense as invading Iraq when 16 of the hijackers were Saudis”.- U R right.

“You most like would not like the results of not going after Saddam either.” Name one.

“I am a disabled Vietnam vet, and would pay ticket price to watch a slap-flare installed and ignited in the author’s alimentary canal!!!!-”Being a vet doesn’t make you a better person.

“I just know you have no standing to judge them.” My opinion is not a judgement. Getting on with our lives is what’s important. This action helped the nation as well.


16 posted on 05/16/2021 7:45:23 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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As a VN vet, I didn't care that the cowardly draft dodgers went to Canada.
   But I was really pissed when they were allowed to come back to America.
They made a decision and they should have been forced to live with it - in Canada!
17 posted on 05/16/2021 7:48:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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The author is nothing more than a chicken liver draft dodger justifying his cowardice.


18 posted on 05/16/2021 7:52:37 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE )
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"It took strongmen like Saddam and Stalin to keep their countries together."

They were both genocidal psychopaths. As my WWII Father once said, we should have destroyed Stalingrad while we had the resources in theater. I believe Patton said the same. As for Saddam, he did have WMD's, he used chemical warfare on his own citizens. Why the entire world thinks WMD only means nukes is beyond me. But that's what the world thought.

"Look what happened to Lybia."

Big mistake by Obambi and Hillary. Kaddafi was a benevolent dictator after Reagan put him in his place. He even offered up his WMD's. Now it's a mess and home to ISIS cells and many other jihadists.

Aftganiscrap was our biggest mistake, even though the radical Taliban were harboring al-Queda.

19 posted on 05/16/2021 7:54:48 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021 under Biteme.)
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I really want to post my bunny-pancake pix, but I can’t since tinypic went down.


20 posted on 05/16/2021 7:55:49 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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