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Even if You Think Discussing Aliens Is Ridiculous, Just Hear Me Out
NY Times ^ | Ezra Klein

Posted on 05/13/2021 6:20:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

The most curious subplot in the news right now is the admission, at the most senior levels of the United States government, that the military services have collected visuals, data and testimonials recording flying objects they cannot explain; that they are investigating these phenomena seriously; and that they will, in the coming months, report at least some of their findings to the public. It feels, at times, like the beginning of a film where everyone is going about their lives, even as the earthshaking events unfurl on a silenced television in the background.

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On Fox News, John Ratcliffe, the former director of national intelligence, was given the opportunity to play down the report, which began under his tenure, and he declined. “When we talk about sightings, we are talking about objects that have been seen by Navy or Air Force pilots, or have been picked up by satellite imagery, that frankly engage in actions that are difficult to explain, movements that are hard to replicate, that we don’t have the technology for, or traveling at speeds that exceed the sound barrier without a sonic boom.” Nor are these just eyewitness accounts, made by fallible human observers. “Usually, we have multiple sensors that are picking up these things,” he said.

Perhaps Ratcliffe...is simply hyping his work. But that doesn’t explain why a former C.I.A. director, John Brennan, said in an interview with the economist Tyler Cowen that “some of the phenomena we’re going to be seeing continues to be unexplained and might, in fact, be some type of phenomenon that is the result of something that we don’t yet understand and that could involve some type of activity that some might say constitutes a different form of life.” Well then. T

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TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: disclosure; tictac; ufo
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1 posted on 05/13/2021 6:20:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Goodbye Aliens.

Dora forgot to renew her green card. : memes

2 posted on 05/13/2021 6:21:27 AM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: RoosterRedux

They are preparing everyone for a big reveal.


3 posted on 05/13/2021 6:22:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: RoosterRedux

NYT has zero credibility.


4 posted on 05/13/2021 6:26:06 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (PS Whenever you are stuffing Fulton County ballot boxes, election fraud goes better with Coca Cola!)
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To: All

There have been interesting thoughts floating around forever about how this kerfuffle might affect those who are religious, but this author alludes to an alternative idea and that is that it might have the greatest impact on agnostics and atheists.


5 posted on 05/13/2021 6:26:34 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Why Ezra Klein? He was the guy behind Journolist, the proven left-wing conspiracy of top media to shape the news in the run-up to Obama’s election.


6 posted on 05/13/2021 6:27:34 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Actually, regarding this issue, they are one of the few news sources that do have credibility.

It was the NY Times that got the ball rolling with this article by Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal, Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program back in Dec 2017.

7 posted on 05/13/2021 6:33:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Georgia Girl 2

They are preparing everyone for a big reveal.


That’s my take as well.


8 posted on 05/13/2021 6:33:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Does this mean the “possible” face and pyramids on Mars will be investigated and information shared with the public ? No


9 posted on 05/13/2021 6:34:44 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die )
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I don’t doubt that.

The thing is that I simply don’t trust the government to do any of this.

If this tech is from earth, why hasn’t it been shared. The stuff they are talking about would revolutionize energy systems and transportation. Why horde that?

If the tech is from out of this realm, the government cannot protect us from it. I would imagine that is something we should ALL know.

Personally, I think this stuff is indigenous to our planet. It’s discovery and it’s revelation would set back the concepts of live here, our origins, and the religious organizations. Imagine the impact of revealing that we’ve been around for millions of years, the earth is cyclical, and that our leaders have known this for two thousand years. I imagine there would be a bunch of disillusioned folks walking around.

Even now if you step back and look at the words people use to react to these reports you will see terms normally associated with ancient pagans: demons, angels, sorcery, etc.

So, this is all about controlling fear. I understand that. But, I wish the government would be less concerned with “protecting me” and more with distributing knowledge for the betterment of the human condition.

In the end, the governments will act in THEIR own best interests. We will get what we always get: obfuscation, misdirection, and out and out lies.

So temper you expectations.


10 posted on 05/13/2021 6:37:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (. )
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To: KC_Lion

This will probably be used to funnel millions (billions?) of taxpayer dollars to left-wing nut academia professors who tell us that we must, “Follow the science” in order to avert some crisis or another. Translation: send even more money.

And my guess is the evidence is weak, very weak. Telling me that you saw a light in the night sky that didn’t behave in a way you expected is about the least convincing evidence you can present to me.


11 posted on 05/13/2021 6:39:30 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far: most of the news media is agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Big reveal,” I don’t know about. They’ll reveal as little as they can get away with. It’s been 75 years, at least. On the one hand, I guess they might declassify from some more cockpit footage, maybe together with some radar details. On the other, I expect a mass of paperwork that’s redacted to the extreme. Barrels of it. Totally useless, but following the letter of the law.

I’ll lay a brick, though, if they actually cop to anything lol. Yes, at Roswell, we recovered these flying discs... a couple of alien corpses, and a couple of live ones.. LOL.

Nothing less than THAT level of “disclosure” is going to satisfy anyone.

Face it, THIS is the “first conspiracy.”

I just finished a documentary, with lots of quotes from historical people (Gorby, Truman, CIA heads). In the end, it goes “down the rabbit hole.” It’s, supposedly, a big setup for a false flag alien invasion etc etc etc.


12 posted on 05/13/2021 6:45:45 AM PDT by Nabron
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To: RoosterRedux

“It feels, at times, like the beginning of a film where everyone is going about their lives, even as the earthshaking events unfurl on a silenced television in the background.”

This may very well be true. My question is: are these reports the earthshaking event, or are they us going about our lives. IOW, it may be a diversion.


13 posted on 05/13/2021 6:52:39 AM PDT by beef (The Chinese have a little secret—diversity is _not_ a strength.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I’m just another guy with an opinion, but I’ll tell you mine.

These are demons.

They have been entering our world for thousands of years. They present themselves, they act with impunity and they act without reason that we can see. They don’t attack us and they don’t even seem interested in us as an enemy or friend.

In the movie ‘The Day the Earth Stood Still, aliens acted as we would expect, but in reality nothing like that has ever happened. They come, they go.

I know barrels of ink have been split on the topic, and I claim no special knowledge. I have never seen one. But I can think of no other explanation for their actions and behavior.

That’s my 2 cents.


14 posted on 05/13/2021 6:54:12 AM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: aynrandfreak
This stuff is rattling the Left's narrative. It's hard to stick to a narrative of systemic racism and white supremacy when something threatens to turn reality itself on its head.

The Postmodern idea that reality is what you "believe" it to be doesn't seem so durable now.

15 posted on 05/13/2021 6:59:17 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Not_Who_U_Think
There are generals at the Pentagon who hold to that idea. One such high-ranking person encouraged Luis Elizondo, at the time head of AATIP, to stop looking into these events for that very reason.

He said to Elizondo, "We already know what these things are. They are demonic."

He may be right.

16 posted on 05/13/2021 7:05:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: KC_Lion

“Ay, Dios mio!”


17 posted on 05/13/2021 7:17:02 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: RoosterRedux

Tell me why any self respecting alien would come to this obscure planet in this out of the way solar system in this non descript galaxy when there are innumerable others to choose from? Just askin.


18 posted on 05/13/2021 7:50:55 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Phlap
Some abductees who have been involved in the process from early childhood say these beings want to join with us, sharing our bodies and minds, to experience life on this planet.

That is what they are preparing for and that is why they are so concerned with the environment and state of the planet.

Personally, I am agnostic on all this stuff. But it looks like we are about to find out.

19 posted on 05/13/2021 8:07:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Your guess is as good as mine.

I’ve seen stuff while flying, but couldn’t really “make sense” of it. It made me more curious than “convinced.”

Eventually we will find out. When I am standing before The Lord, it is on the list of questions. Ha ha.


20 posted on 05/13/2021 9:21:18 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (. )
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