Posted on 05/10/2021 7:02:01 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
“Sod off, troll.”
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Gretchen, stop trying to make ‘Sod off, troll’ happen, it’s NOT going to happen!
How about a response regarding this Salk study. I believe there is some relevance.
You’re saying he’s going to sod on, then?
Yeah, I notice all the Branch Covidians are running away from the data like scalded dogs.
Why would anyone believe anything from AFD when one of their spokespersons believes in witchcraft, astral sex, and demons impregnating women?
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One of the doctors is from Africa and has successfully treated 340 patients with HCQ, many of them elderly with co-morbidities. No fatalities - all recovered.
From the moment she said that, it was game on for her attackers, who now portray the entire organization as having her unique, cultural beliefs which do not impact her medical performance.
Note that no one has found fault with how she treats her patient’s sexually transmitted diseases, or Covid-19.
So eager to disparage an entire organization based on the irrelevant cultural background of one member, yet Fauci thought it was a good idea to fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan even though it was known that China was working to weaponize Coronavirus at the time. Oh, and he STILL thinks it’s a good idea because he’s promised more tax payer funds to Wuhan.
And she hasn’t been a public figure really for the Front Line Doctors since early last year because of that.
Stop generalizing. That’s like saying the whole repub party is as bad as Liz Cheney just because she’s a member.
I see you both are intellectually dishonest. And azzhats to boot.
zek157 wrote: “Is the Salk Institute reputable enough for you? The Spike protein in your poke is toxic alone. Enjoy.”
From the posted article: “Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.”
Do you anti-vaxxers even read what you post? Did you miss this part: “safely encoded by the vaccines”. You guys are so desperate to denigrate the vaccines that you leap on something which proves exactly the opposite of what you claim.
Pollard wrote: “And she hasn’t been a public figure really for the Front Line Doctors since early last year because of that.”
The fact that she was a spokesperson for even a limited time causes one to question the judgement of the rest.
ransomnote wrote: One of the doctors is from Africa and has successfully treated 340 patients with HCQ, many of them elderly with co-morbidities. No fatalities - all recovered.
From the moment she said that, it was game on for her attackers, who now portray the entire organization as having her unique, cultural beliefs which do not impact her medical performance.”
Well, yes, those ‘unique cultural beliefs’ do indicate that one cannot trust her judgement. Nor can one trust the judgement of the other AFD who put her forward as a spokesperson without vetting her completely. BTW, other than the word of a person with ‘unique cultural beliefs, what evidence do you have of her successful treatments. It’s questionable that any of these AFD have treated any COVID patients:
“No Evidence That Doctor Group in Viral Video Got Near COVID ‘Front Lines’
— Who are the physicians behind America’s Frontline Doctors?”
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90533
Well, yes, those ‘unique cultural beliefs’ do indicate that one cannot trust her judgement.
NOPE. Her 'judgement' resulted in the safe recovery of 100% of her patients treated with HCQ.
Nor can one trust the judgement of the other AFD who put her forward as a spokesperson without vetting her completely.
They knew her medical performance was solid and defensible. No claims of medical mistreatment or failures - just attacks on her cultural background. They followed the science and her knowledge of HCQ and her patient's response to it are solid.
BTW, other than the word of a person with ‘unique cultural beliefs, what evidence do you have of her successful treatments. It’s questionable that any of these AFD have treated any COVID patients:
“No Evidence That Doctor Group in Viral Video Got Near COVID ‘Front Lines’
— Who are the physicians behind America’s Frontline Doctors?”
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90533
Oh that's so cute coming from trolls who never supply evidence, but always demand it from others.
You have no evidence they don't have Covid patients. You know there's a HIPPA limit to what medical privacy laws will allow to be revealed.
SO you think doctors who put their reputations on the line who are threatened and fired for doing so are part of a conspiracy? Just destroying their professional lives for a larp or a conspiracy?
AFLD are successfully treating people - there are those on FR who have used their online services to obtain appointments and medicaitons and report success.
what are your concerns about our federal government exposing our citizens to a “deadly virus” by opening the border, inviting, and continuing to distribute thousands of “disease carrying invaders” across our country during a “global pandemic”???...
The S-protein alone is a problem. How the hell did you miss that? That is the point of this study.
Here, I’ll help you out.
“ In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls.
The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented.
Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own.”
zek157 wrote: “The S-protein alone is a problem. How the hell did you miss that? That is the point of this study. Here, I’ll help you out.”
It looks like you’re the one who needs help:
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/05/04/spike-protein-behavior
From this article: “I’ve been getting a lot of questions in the last few days about several Spike-protein-related (and vaccine-related) topics, so I thought this would be a good time to go into them. There’s been a recent report about the vascular effects of the Spike protein alone (not coronavirus infection per se), and another presentation on similar effects in lung tissue. These are almost certainly looking at the same phenomena – the lungs are of course full of vascular tissue, and what’s being seen in both cases is very likely mediated by effects on the vascular endothelium.”
and:
“So I’ve been getting questions about what this means for vaccination: if we’re causing people to express Spike protein via mRNA or adenovirus vectors, are we damaging them just as if they’d been infected with coronavirus? Fortunately, the answer definitely seems to be “no” – in fact, the pseudovirus paper notes near the end that the antibody response generated by vaccination against the Spike protein will be beneficial in two ways, against infection and against the Spike-mediated endothelial damage as well. There are several reasons why the situation is different.”
IOW, just another anti-vaxxer misrepresentation. The anti-vaxxers are so desperate to denigrate the vaccines that they will post almost anything that advances their purpose even if it is inaccurate.
heavy metal wrote: “what are your concerns...”
I’ve already answered this.
ransomnote wrote: “You have no evidence they don’t have Covid patients. You know there’s a HIPPA limit to what medical privacy laws will allow to be revealed.”
Cheap debate tactic of trying to force someone to prove a negative. Now, why don’t you provide evidence, other than their disputed claims, that they’ve had the success they’ve claimed?
“Cheap debate tactic” is actually sort of my nickname for you. I see your name and sigh, knowing before I’ve read your post it’s just ‘cheap debate tactic.”
ransomnote wrote: ““Cheap debate tactic” is actually sort of my nickname for you. I see your name and sigh, knowing before I’ve read your post it’s just ‘cheap debate tactic.””
You must think that reporting the facts without the hyperbolic conspiracy distortions by the anti-vaxxer cult are ‘cheap debate tactics’.
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