Posted on 05/07/2021 3:18:12 PM PDT by ransomnote
Many FALSELY believe that having a Covid-19 vaccine with a 95% efficacy rate means they have 95% chance of staying healthy, and a 5% chance of getting sick. That would only be true if the often quoted efficacy rate referred to Relative Risk Reduction (RRR).
The Pharma companies, NIH, CDC, Fauci, Biden Administration appear to be satisfied that the public is not aware of what 'vaccine' claims like ‘95% effective’ actually mean.
Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) would have to be calculated to know the percent reduction of risk of illness following vaccination. I haven't seen any commentary in all the advertising which uses ARR statistics.
To calculate ARR, the % of persons expected to become ill following vaccination is subtracted from the % of persons who would have become ill if they hadn't had the vaccine.
Using Pfizer's data, without a vaccine people have a .93% chance of becoming ill with Covid-19 in the next 2 months (duration of Pfizer’s study).
According to Pfizer, if they have the vaccine, their risk of illness over the next 2 months drops from .93 of one percent, to .05 of one percent (rounded). We don't know how many would have become ill if the study continued beyond 2 months so that theoretical 'protection' has a time frame.
A nice walk through of the math involved is provided by a former math professor who doesn’t have a dog in this fight, he just wants people to understand math because…well…you can take a math professor out of the math lab but you can’t take the math out of the professor.
Prof. Richard Zucker illustrates his point first by walking through calculations for Measles, and then through the same calculations for Covid-19.
Measures of Vaccine Effectiveness - YouTube (17 minute video)
He compares this value with prior Measles vaccinations, in which you would have to vaccinate 1.3 children to protect 1 child from the disease. He shows through his calculations, using Pfizer’s data, 113 people have to be vaccinated to protect 1 person from becoming ill with Covid-19.
(IMAGE BELOW from Professor Zucker's video)
I think the the number of persons vaccinated required to "protect" one person from Covid-19 must be continually increasing, because many have already had Covid-19 and the risk of becoming ill from it is decreasing, and presummably the vaccinated are a little less vulnerable to illness as well. I've not seen any calculations about the percentages of people harmed by the 'vaccines'.
Those pushing for ‘herd immunity,’ and reasoning as if only vaccines can provide immunity, often state that the non-vaccinated are ‘holding us back’. In reality, because the risk of getting Covid-19 to those who have not yet had it is under 1%, the public health benefit of any vaccine of any efficacy rate is also going to be under 1% to those who haven't already had Covid-19.
Those who have had Covid-19 already have antibodies and do not benefit from vaccination, according to physicians like Dr. McCullough, who has worked with a team of physicians who developed a treatment protocol that reduces deaths from Covid-19 among the vulnerable by 85%. You may read about (print out) their medication protocol or watch the first 7 minutes of the video at the link below:
Now the public is being wooed with prizes and treats if they get vaccinated. 100$ savings bonds (WV, for ages 19 to 35), beer, nightclubs, museum passes, and other perks await the vaccine submission.
What's Behind Vaccine Hysteria? - American Thinker
The Yankees and Mets announced the stadiums will once again be open, but the vaccinated will ‘get’ to sit next to each other and the unvaccinated will have to socially distance. Yet we’re talking about a less than 1% chance of illness in the vaccinated section compared with a less than 1% chance of illness in the vaccinated section seated outdoors, all wearing masks.
Continued employment is a perk looming on the horizon. Commerce and travel, all of it tied to less than 1% difference with or without the vax.
Bills GM to cut players who refuse The Vaccine… [Buffalo]
The young and the healthy are likely the dominant demographic in a baseball stadium, so the risk of illness at a football stadium is actually smaller than Pfizer’s 2 month trial data .93% risk. So the benefits of vaccination would be smaller still.
The unvaccinated could get Covid-19 in the next 2 months, and if so, they are likely to recover and if particularly vulnerable (elderly, immune suppressed etc.), can use available treatments which are 85% effective. If those physicians and researchers who claim immunity is lasting are correct, why should those who've already had Covid-19 undergo the compounded risks of vaccination as they receive repeated ‘booster’ vaccination?
Why is there no real risk-benefit analysis in the push to vaccinate everyone with experimental products? The CDC’s documentation indicates boosters will not have to undergo the testing that the initial vaccines underwent.
The vaccines have risks, some of which are unknown and may result in ADE or other autoimmune illnesses. The vaccine trials were too short to tell us if they are safe, for whom, or for how long.
There’s evidence that the ‘vaccines’ promote the production of spike proteins that are themselves toxic to human health, and those vaccinated will not have a way to halt the production of those spike proteins in their bodies. I’ve heard (been shouted at) that the spike proteins won’t endure past a few days, weeks or months, but that assertion is insufficiently tested to promote as fact.
Some trolls gleefully post that the vaccines will likely be reclassified as ‘FDA approved’ within months to reduce the public’s ‘vaccine hesitancy’; not that the ‘vaccines’ will undergo the needed 10+ years of extensive testing for standard ‘FDA Approval’, but that they will simply be ‘reclassified’ for marketing purposes.
Pfizer asks FDA for full approval of coronavirus vaccine (msn.com)
Those trolls brag that once FDA approved, the fake vaccines can then be made mandatory. Imagine the quality of your life if the thought of other Americans receiving experimental vaccines against their will, in violation of their human and Constitutional Rights, made you felt superior and proud.
The Biden Administration will discover that the American public has, can and will say “NO!” to the destruction of freedom in our nation. Every day, more are waking up and seeing through the propaganda.
Vaccine specialists like Geert Vanden Bossche are warning that mass vaccinating a population in the middle of an outbreak, as we are told we are living through for a year now, is expected to lead to the development of stronger strains that we would face had we waited for natural herd immunity and treated the ill instead of withholding FDA approved medications. I hope he and the others saying this are wrong.
Given the hard salesmanship, the stripping of our rights, censorship, the violations of the Nuremburg Code of 1948 regarding informed consent, and threats/plans to institute shunning and steady advancement of vaccine passports, I believe the warnings are true.
I don’t believe the stated reason for the vaccinations, presumably Covid-19, explains the dictatorial grasping manner the Biden Administration is trying to treat us like livestock and ‘have us’ mass vaccinated. These bizarre tactics are not medically driven.
Want more proof?
New study from the UK government predicts 60-70% of future Covid deaths will be of those who had the 2nd shot of vaccines....
Of course we're hearing about 'variants' and the experts don't agree on whether or not our natural immunity to Covid-19 or 'vaccines' will protect us.
There are reasons why vaccination may not provide the benefits to public health claimed by manufacturers, the CDC, Fauci, and the co-owners of Moderna's patent in the NIH.
Italian Researchers: Vaccines Will Not Work Because SARS-CoV-2 Is Also Entering Bacteria (freerepublic.com)
The push for vaccination, 'vaccine apartheid', vaccination passports and vaccination risk censorship is not based on science.
Excellent article on Absolute relative risk for Covid vax
Not sure you’ll find the answer to your question but the comments here are very helpful understanding this concept:
“We are fortunate to live in a time when the ARR of a smallpox vaccine is zero. Even one with an RRR of 100%. But that is largely because a high-RRR vaccine was administered globally for decades when any measure of the ARR was vanishingly close to zero.”
Thank you.
“What the 95% actually means is that vaccinated people had a 95% lower risk of getting COVID-19 compared with the control group participants, who weren't vaccinated. In other words, vaccinated people in the Pfizer clinical trial were 20 times less likely than the control group to get COVID-19.”
Also, from Live Science:
“All three vaccines were 100% effective at preventing severe disease six weeks after the first dose (for Moderna) or seven weeks after the first dose (for Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson, the latter of which requires only one dose). Zero vaccinated people in any of the trials were hospitalized or died of COVID-19 after the vaccines had fully taken effect.”
We aren‘t told of how many in the control group had “severe disease,” but it too could have been 100%.
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Kinda a dead thread, so I think this public flogging needs more eyes on.
#VaxWars
You're aware that the smallpox vaccine and the rona 'vaccine' are two different things, right?
Crazy how science works, amirite?
Thank you for providing a link that explains vaccine efficacy.
Thanks for your concern.
HOWEVER
I'm rapidly closing in on 80, have already had COVID (along with my 75yo bride), both fully recovered and...
None of our extended family would even consider that VAX.
Reasons:
1) I've only related my past experiences with gummint stuff over the years ('Nam + 15 yrs Aerospace + general observations of the past 30 years or so) and resulting "deep suspicions".
2) Grandma's family experiences with BLM, Forest "Service" and Dept of Agriculture have led them to much the same low opinion of all things Beltway.
3) The past ten to fifteen years of MSM/DS/Gov machinations, including entire COVID excercise with the final Vomit Topping on the Sh**burger being the gross fraud election and that farce on Dec 6 to stonewall it.
.....
Should I go further, or can you spell out "Total lack of faith and trust" for yourself?
(BTW, I'm not going anywhere. Navy Corpsman told me long ago I must think I'm too mean and ugly to die and I'm not going to disappoint that good man.)
“One common misunderstanding is that 95% efficacy means that in the Pfizer clinical trial, 5% of vaccinated people got COVID. But that's not true; the actual percentage of vaccinated people in the Pfizer (and Moderna) trials who got COVID-19 was about a hundred times less than that: 0.04%.”
That sounds remarkable, right? “One hundred times less” sounds incredible.
However, they leave out that the control group had under a 1% of getting COVID-19 WITHOUT A VACCINE TO HELP THEM.
The legit Pfizer number is mentioned only in RansomNote’s post, showing 0.93% of all control people got COVID-19.
So non-vaccinated people have a “99+ times less chance” of getting COVID-19, as well.
Of they are all shedding those spike proteins all over the rest of us. 😣
Biden shill spotted.
President Trump, the leader of Operation Warp Speed would beg to differ.
I'm old enough to remember when it was the leftist kooks that all swore they'd never take the "Trump vaccine." Seems the left doesn't have a monopoly
That’s what the people who think everyone should get vaccinated and stay home and wear masks etc...think.
They're wrong.
I'm right.
Stop following the left. You'll get gas.
p.s. The left thinks they're everybody's daddy.
There's a difference.
Google it.
If you saw humanity walking toward a cliff intent on jumping off, would you at least try to stop them?
(assuming they're not ALL democrats, of course)
I agree, hope your sis fully recovers. What some may be going through, health wise, might not be related at all to COVID or the vaccine. BUT, the lies, secrecy, stolen election, and massive liberal government takeover creates fear and mistrust of this corrupt government.
Think about it, just over a year and half ago this country was humming and a bright future was ahead. The Democrats were coming out of an embarrassing impeachment attempt, Trump was on top and a shoe in for re-election. Unemployment was the best in many years, our economy was strong.
WHERE ARE WE TODAY? We are in a race war, only BLACK LIVES MATTER, we are being silenced, our freedom is being stolen, people wear masks and are in fear of a virus from China. An idiot is pretending to be President, while his liberal administration is making the calls. Our military is being destroyed, cities have burned , lawlessness is running rampant and thousands are pouring over the border, historical statues have been brought to the ground and the economy is being controlled by China and big tech. WE ARE IN TROUBLE and no one is doing a thing about it.
It is Biden and the left who are ramming the experimental vaccine down our throats.
I don’t care if someone decides to get the jab, That’s their choice.
It’s also my choice to refuse the jabs. Respect my choice and leave me alone.
There’s one very good and sufficient reason for not getting the vax- “I don’t trust the government”.
I see a lot of garbage like this post against getting vaxxed and wonder why they make up this stuff when all they have to say is : “I just don’t trust them!” and any reasonable person will say “Right on!”.
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