Posted on 05/07/2021 3:40:33 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Seems like a logical plan.
Excellent, I am saving this!!!
I have chosen to be a part of the Control Group. I’ll be quite interested to see what happens to the human guinea pigs who take the JAB.
NIce work
“I have not seen news of 15,000 deaths from vaccines.”
because they simple refuse to report it. Are you really that dumb to think liberals pushing this vaccine allow reports against it??
I had a friend die from the vaccine and there will be no report of his death.
“But being a decent person I won’t lost them here because you might never leave your home again. If you want to divert attention pick a better red herring”
Yet, here you are trying to scare people into taking the covid vaccine.
President Trump is the ORIGINAL pusher for warp speed availability of vaccines. If he is the liberal I am following, I am OK with it.
Are you really that gullible? Trump has a terrible track record of character judgement. Look at who he has hired and needed to hire. He may very innocently think covid is real and the vaccines are real due to the liberals advising him. That doesn’t mean he is correct. When did being a conservative mean losing your own sense of judgement and deferring to others for it?
// ransomnote: 15 healthy volunteers at each of 2 doses and 15 healthy control group participants means NOTHING. //
Really, no repeats, only 15? Want to make sure I’m not missing something in trials. Thank you for your time putting that background together with links - helpful
Cuz if not - there’s a big difference between screened “healthy volunteers” and general population.
Working from memory here.
Phase I trials usually feature a small number of healthy volunteers and are basically testing survivability and which dose level to use. MOderna phase I trials started March of 2020.
MOderna had low dose (15) higher dose (15) and no dose (15). There were actually 1 or two extra people that did not complete the Phase I trial so I think the end count was 45 people total.
In Moderna, there aren’t repeats.
Phase I had healthy volunteers, no elderly, and I believe that trial started in March and lasted for about 57 days.
Phase II trials looked sketchy to me. I couldn’t find it in Moderna documentation and a troll threw some information at me which, when I read it was around 600 people. Too few people and too brief to ‘count’ as a Phase II trial compared with traditional phase II trials. They are just phoning it in. I think elderly were separated into a different group but the reporting I tried to read was so different than reporting on other groups I didn’t learn much.
Phase III had variation in reported number of participants and included specific co-morbidities but ruled out others (HIV etc.). None tested pregnant women. The trial size numbers numbers were always different in the MSM - I read 50K, 45K 40K and finally 36K.
Pfizer is obscuring their trials by claiming to blend (possibly your repeat scenario?) them so I read about Phase I/II trials and references to the Phase I/II/III Trial(s) or Phase II/III so they may have some repeats, but I don’t really trust them. Pfizer’s Phase I/II/III trial ends either at the end of 2021 or 2023 - I’ve seen both reported.
There is hysteria, but there doesn’t have to be.
If you want the shot or wear a mask, do so.
But DO NOT MAKE ME. Do not tell me it’ll make YOU safer for ME to do that. You’re safe; be confident in that.
It’s like I don’t want to get pregnant so take responsibility for myself and take “the pill”. And then I tell YOU to take the pill because I don’t want to get pregnant.
that's presuming you can trust the numbers from the government and CDC about the death count from the virus.
I''m with you on that.
I may or moy not catch COVID, if what I had last year wasn't really it, but with the vax, that would be deliberately injecting something of unknown consequences into my body.
I'll pass, thankyouverymuch.
Truth.
So far as I know, I have not yet had it. The only issue I have had since this all started (that I didn’t already have) was less the 24 hr. possible fever.
About 3 days after the grand/great grand kids were here, I thought I had a fever. When I took my temp it was 98.6-my usual at home is 97.0. So I knew there was no point in calling the doctor-they would just consider it normal.
So I took extra Vitamins, zinc, melatonin, and Quercetin and went to bed. Next day, I was fine.
In college, I caught a very bad case of one of the Hong Kong Flu variants. I woke up fine, but with a minor tickle in my throat-kinda normal due to sinus issues. Met the car pool, and went to school. Ninety miles later, they said you don’t look so good, but I didn’t feel bad at all.
By mid-afternoon I was having trouble breathing outdoors (very cold), and collapsed in the student lounge, where my car pool had arranged I should go if I got to feeling bad.
They took me straight to the doctor, and I had Bronchitis. I did not really get over it for about 8 months. Even then, I was still hacking every morning for several years.
And I also got Bronchitis every winter thereafter, until I started taking vitamin d3. I haven’t even had the flu for over a decade. I’m a big believer in D3! Ha.
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