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Concerning Critical Race Theory and the 1619 Project: Who Owned the Slave Ships, When Did the Slave Trade Really Begin, What Nations Were Involved, Etc?
05/06/2021 | Its All Over Except...

Posted on 05/06/2021 3:43:25 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...

The 1619 Project was developed by Nikole Hannah-Jones of the New York Times that supposedly focuses on the cause(s) and consequences of slavery, etc, but does this "project" miss the target intentionally or otherwise?

Before anything like this "project" (opposed by President Donald Trump and numerous other politicians, educators, etc, across the United States) should have even been attempted, much less potentially taught within classrooms in high school or beyond, were the times before the 1600's explored or even much less considered? Those origins could be covered in a "1400's Project" that deals with how the slave trade began in the 1400's with African tribes who collaborated with Europeans in the slave trade. A further examination of the slave trade could be brought about by delving into the rampant slavery conducted by Muslim areas of the Middle East even before the 1400's and the degree to which they enslaved both blacks and whites. And did any nations in the Middle East before the 700's-1000's AD engage in a slave trade, even during BC times?

Pertaining to the slave trade and the 1600's, has an in-depth and comprehensive analysis been conducted and published looking beyond merely which nations were involved and perusing which specific companies were involved in any way or capacity (primarily, secondarily or even tangentially), who owned the slave ships, where were the slave houses in Europe or across the ocean located, on what days was the selling of slaves conducted, and on and on?

Pertaining to CRT and/or any of its proponents, how could they, if they were to say so, possibly declare that enslaving others is indicative of only one race and ignore it being a problem potentially found within all humans of the past?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; History; Religion
KEYWORDS: 1619; 1619project; blm; criticalracetheory; mediabias; slavery; slavetrade
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1 posted on 05/06/2021 3:43:25 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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What say you?


2 posted on 05/06/2021 3:44:21 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clooo Much Time At The Ci)
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Who owned the ships and ran the slave trade in 1619?

It sure wasn’t The USA... In fact, it was the USA that actually got rid of the practice.

Why is the USA being blamed???


3 posted on 05/06/2021 3:47:22 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Its All Over Except ...

As I understand it, slaves built the pyramids, which was a bit before 1400.


4 posted on 05/06/2021 3:49:03 PM PDT by fruser1
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There is slavery going on right now today and these people who are so upset about slavery always are talking about 160 years ago and seem to have no interest whatsoever in the slavery trade going on right now in countries the liberals have no problem with.

India (18.4 million)
China (3.4 million)
Pakistan (2.1 million)
Bangladesh (1.5 million)
Uzbekistan (1.2 million)
North Korea (1.1 million)


5 posted on 05/06/2021 3:49:12 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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Have a look at a book by Siân Rees called Sweet Water and Bitter: The Ships That Stopped the Slave Trade. It’s about a squadron of the British Navy that worked for decades off the coast of Africa to stop the western-bound slave trade. As part of its account the book provides a useful history of -African slavery. As you suggest, numerous nations of all races participated. And of course that includes the Africans themselves, who supplied the slaves for sale out of the population of their own local defeated enemies - at least the ones they didn’t kill, enslave themselves, or eat.


6 posted on 05/06/2021 3:50:09 PM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
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To: Beowulf9

And Libya now as well.


7 posted on 05/06/2021 3:52:20 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clooo Much Time At The Ci)
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Ashanti Empire Trade Slaves for Guns
https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/ashanti-empire-trade-slaves-guns/


8 posted on 05/06/2021 3:54:00 PM PDT by Fungi
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Spain
Dutch
Portugal

GB, especially after The Armada ‘disaster’

Cortez was a piker compared to Pizzaro


9 posted on 05/06/2021 3:54:40 PM PDT by combat_boots (Hi God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! )
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To: joethedrummer

Indeed. We need to discover who owned the slave ships and slave markets. Without them the slave trade comes to a halt.


10 posted on 05/06/2021 3:54:55 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clooo Much Time At The Ci)
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To: Beowulf9

Abd in Arabic means slave


11 posted on 05/06/2021 3:56:30 PM PDT by combat_boots (Hi God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! )
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...and who ran the slave markets.


12 posted on 05/06/2021 3:57:24 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clooo Much Time At The Ci)
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To: Beowulf9

Liberals can’t walk and chew bubble gum at the same time, they seem to have selective outrage, and they can’t seem to find all of the pertinent information.


13 posted on 05/06/2021 3:59:50 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clooo Much Time At The Ci)
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“I am Sparticus!”


14 posted on 05/06/2021 4:00:23 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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One thing 1619 leaves out(of course),is that the Africans sold their own people and got stinking rich off it...The narrative that white men started slavery is killed when you add the Africans into the mix...Soooo,libs bury that info and don’t add them...IT ALL STARTS WITH WHITE PEOPLE.....

The other thing they bury...From 1828 to 1960’s ,DEM PARTY murdered,raped and lynched more blacks than all white people in the USA......Buuut,blacks embrace the racist dems because they give them freebies.....


15 posted on 05/06/2021 4:00:58 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (When will the dems turn the US into Venezuela????)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

I read that during the tribal wars the lucky vanquished were sold into slavery. Those not killed were held for tribal ceremonial celebrations in which the vanquished were killed in various gruesome fashions to entertain the victorious tribal members.


16 posted on 05/06/2021 4:01:23 PM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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Africans ran their own slave markets...


17 posted on 05/06/2021 4:01:47 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (When will the dems turn the US into Venezuela????)
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To: fruser1

I read that the pyramid builders were actually not slaves and were paid and fed while working on them. Admittedly not much, but they think the projects were handled in a sort of conscription fashion.

Be that as it may the results of the 1619 were determined before the “research” ever began. The “data” is all cherry picked to fulfill the narrative. The people involved in are part of the plan to take down western civilzation.


18 posted on 05/06/2021 4:02:46 PM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: combat_boots

Who were the individuals in those countries who owned the slave ships, ran the slave markets on either end of the trade, or even invested in any part it?


19 posted on 05/06/2021 4:02:51 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clooo Much Time At The Ci)
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Not to be left out were the AFRICAN tribes that held slaves or rounded up people from other tribes and sold them.


20 posted on 05/06/2021 4:03:21 PM PDT by llevrok (I'm old enough to remember when the quarantine was to be 2 weeks)
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