Posted on 05/01/2021 9:23:40 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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Microsoft News Stay informed with trusted, personalized news Open the app AFP Third of US software firm's employees resign over politics ban AFP 9 hrs ago Polarized debates have animated the United States for months © MARIO TAMA Polarized debates have animated the United States for months About a third of the employees at US productivity software firm Basecamp have announced their resignations after the company banned political conversations in the workplace.
The mass walkout came after Basecamp chief executive and co-founder Jason Fried published a blog post on Monday explaining new rules adopted by the company, including a ban on "societal and political discussions on our company Basecamp account."
He also announced the end of some "paternalistic" employee benefits, such as fitness and continuing education allowances, and said there would be "no more lingering or dwelling on past decisions."
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I almost never discussed politics at work. I had an in you face dem coworker always batching about pdjt from his election, I always said his is still president. Then I got layed off last July.
Got rid of the losers and troublemakers so easily.
When I was growing up and started working in the 70s and 80s it was a generally accepted rule that you don’t talk about politics or religion in the workplace.
Maybe not a rule exactly but considered poor manners.
I used to wonder back then why Japanese people were considered so ‘inscrutable’. It was easing a running joke in comic books. Even today it’s hard to get traditional Japanese people to express their opinion. It’s very hard to get them to say “no”. Instead they will say “That is something to consider” or a similar polite response when they cannot say yes.
I’ve grown to see why they are like that.
I read it. Smoke an mirrors. For one thing I know how those benefits work and the “cash value” they’ll pay the employees is usually way less than what the company is actually paying. Also you hide it all behind a bunch of paperwork so most employees won’t bother.
Also looked them up. They’ve got 4 products, none of which I’ve heard of, all of which compete in crowded spaces, they’re regularly losing fights with other companies, and 6 years ago they focused on their “core” product dumping the rest. And they only had 34 employees to start with.
It’s a failing company. They lose people.
The problem is that to prevent “crybaby generation” suits an employer now has to fit employment policy around the employee’s lifestyle rather than the employee fitting their lifestyle around their employment policies. So they have them over the barrel and can do just about what they want.
This is right now a huge issue in the medical industry that raises costs. Companies have to employ more employees than they really need because the employees are allowed to set their own schedules and show up to work only when they want to.
Let alone practice political ideology at work that harms the company because they are representatives of that company. They are cry babies who scream discrimination at the drop of a hat. Just even look at one funny and you might have to go to court for it. Employers need to get a handle on this and squash it before it gets worse.
But notice that liberal companies promoted this... And now they are complaining about what they have created?
That’s how you get rid of Pencil Pushing Go To Meeting Project management assholes.
“Microsoft has 175,000 (I used to be one).”
Finally! Someone to blame! lol :)
SCHADENFREUDE!
That’s kinda the point of the prohibition on political chatter: get the work done; if you’re not going to work, leave.
When I joined a department working near 100% remote, I noticed idle chatter was near zero. And $#!^ gets done.
Actually not a terrible product, listcicle-type stuff, but they are obviously positioning themselves to merge or be bought by someone who would then enable their somewhat lacking enterprise services. Maybe Ceridian (Dayforce) or Salesforce (Slack).
I can’t speak to the longterm viability of Basecamp as a company. Frankly, I have no idea whether they’re failing or not. I do know there are plenty of companies their size that do just fine. I’m not privy to their books nor have I had any dealings with the company whatsoever. I have, however heard of them and am aware of some teams that use their core product.
I do, however, note that they offered a 6 month severance package to any employee who had a problem with the policy and the ones who left took them up on it.
You seem to be emotionally invested in designating this company as a failure, which is fine with me. I don’t really have an interest either way except to say that I very much appreciated the tone and tenor of their announcement. I thought it was a breath of fresh air and something that needs to be done by more businesses, both inside the tech industry and out.
I don’t find it outside the realm of believability that 1/3 of the people working there decided to virtue signal by leaving. Hell, I even read a blog post by one of the ‘aggrieved’ and she was precisely the kind of toxic person that needs to be cut from any professional environment like the cancer that she is. Therefore, I find it difficult to slap a label of ‘failure’ on this company or even one that says ‘success’ for that matter. I just chalk it up to being merely an indication of the times in which we live.
Failure or no, moving forward without the employees concentrating on critical race theory instead of their work can only be an improvement from the status quo.
One of the intricacies of the Japanese language is that the grammar changes depending upon whether a social inferior addresses a superior or vice versa. And these differences depend upon the how many levels of separation there are.
Definitely reminds me of Heinlein's quip that an armed society is a polite society.
Agreed. It’s the new version of being stupid enough to hire someone who has previously filed an EEOC complaint.
> What a great way to get rid of the deadwood.
Precisely. These people are deadwood in the form of a beaver dam backing things up.
Good riddance!
Coinbase cut 10%+ with a similar announcement.
> It’s a failing company. They lose people.
Not necessarily. I know a number of software companies that are privately held and don’t feel a need to “scale” because they want to live their lives like they want to live their lives. Sometimes that means saying “not interested”, and once you’re at a certain income level, why go through the hassle of trying to get mega rich?
So the CEO said if you wanna be woke do it on your own time...
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Its odd that the wokesters are not woke at all when it comes to figuring out that they will be the inheritors of a crushing federal debt and massive unfunded entitlement liabilities. They are the clueless chumps who spend so much time obsessing over ideological issues that they can’t see the forest for the tress. They are going to be left holding the bag. They are the stuckees.
Translation: We were using these discussions to out non-liberals so we could get them fired.
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Spot on.
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