Posted on 04/30/2021 5:20:10 AM PDT by C19fan
Moscow on a midsummer’s night in 1941 was a balmy place to be. For the discerning, there was Chekhov’s Three Sisters playing to full houses, while opera lovers had a choice between Rigoletto and La Traviata.
Others fished for their suppers on the banks of the river, tended their allotments, or simply strolled through Gorky Park.
All felt safe in the knowledge that, for the past two years (give or take a few weeks), Stalin’s Soviet Union had been in a pact of friendship and non-aggression with Hitler’s Germany.
Though their fundamental political beliefs were polar opposites — one communist, the other fascist — the two biggest nations in Europe had agreed not to go to war with each other.
Until, suddenly, this cosy world turned on its head. The next morning those same Moscow streets were filled with silent, anxious crowds surrounding public loudspeakers, from which came the trembling, echoing voice of Molotov, the minister of foreign affairs.
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And the torn up rails. Luckily, the Germans had a secret weapon: Stalin. Unfortunately for them, the Soviets had a secret weapon: Hitler.
Speaking of revisionists, their claim that: “Though their fundamental political beliefs were polar opposites” is completely false.
The nationalist socialism of the Germans and the international socialism of the Russians were nearly identical. They are both socialist, both anti-Jew, both violent toward scapegoats among their own people, and both expansionist. The only difference is in how they saw the people they planned to conquer or kill in other countries.
What if Patton got his wish and invaded the USSR after WWII ended?
The Nazis weren’t prepared for General Winter
Will this misstatement never stop? Two sides of the same coin, more like it: One national socialist, the other international socialist - but both SOCIALIST.
You beat me to it.
From what I read many Russians were hoping Germany would save them from Stalin and communism. But then realized that it was better to fight for the tyrant who would persecute them than the tyrant who would simply kill them.
Even if they took Moscow, there was still a lot of land to conquer and General Winter.
The big fight between Communism and Fascism came when Hitler couldn’t gain a majority of voters as many were being taken by the commies. Their platforms were extremely similar. Hence, Hitler’s purge and extermination of them.
The Reds here in the USA had no problem with Hitler at all, until he started killing the communists.
Mark Steyn has a great article on Pete Seeger and his about-face on staying out of the war when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.
Russian race?!
Puhleez....
Weather and geography defeat Germany in the east.
Thank you.
Yeah, the "right-left" line doesn't quite work. Communist. Marxist. Socialist. Nazi. Fascist. DemocRats. What separates them are minor policy differences.
It is fun to try to get a liberal articulate the differences.
No, it all fell on Hitler when he delayed operation Barbarossa 6 weeks to secure his southern flank. He and his garner also were well aware of the Russian winters. Had Barbarossa gone off as planned, it would have been a different story.
What would we have done with Russia if we’d conquered it? Turned them into Republicans? It’s a dictatorship, always has been.
Hindsight analysis here. If Hitler had focused more on taking the region of Palestine and establishing Israel during the war he could have maybe won the favor of the Jewish people by relocating them to their homeland, instead of the horrific attempt of genocide.
Also, if he had embraced the technology (atomic energy) that the Jewish scientists were working on, he may have accomplished his goals.
It appears his hatred of all things Jewish diminished his ability to be a masterful military tactician. Even his closest advisors could not convince him he was in peril.
The big lie. Both systems were simple variations of Leftist totalitarianism.
NAZIs were National Socialists. Soviets were International Socialists (Communists).
NAZIs focused on race and class, Communists focused on class and religion.
A German general caught a glimpse of the T-34 in the early days of Barbarossa, he remarked that if the Soviets could mass produce the T-34, Germany would lose the war.
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