Posted on 04/27/2021 8:39:08 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
The skyrocketing number of COVID-19 cases in India is likely driven by a “far more infectious and probably far more deadly” variant — and is driving hospitals to “beyond [a] crisis point,” a top physician warned Tuesday.
Dr. Zarir Udwadia, who works in Mumbai hospitals and consults for the government, said he has seen “ward after ward full of patients struggling to breathe on ventilators of different forms and shapes.”
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They were using Ivermectin for a lot of the year 2020 and had the disease spread fairly under control considering they have 1.4 billion population. In January 2021 they stopped using Ivermectin. Within weeks and months cases and deaths started to skyrocket. Hospitals are overloaded and they are running low on oxygen tanks. Last week they have begun to go back to Ivermectin as outpatient treatment. Let’s see what happens in a couple of weeks.
I have no idea what will happen. It’s a very big country with different ‘states’ each sort of doing their own thing but in New Delhi they just started using Ivermectin again. A quick check on the Worldometer shows that yesterday new cases dropped 15% and deaths nearly cut in half. Could be a blip/aberration, but hopefully it’s the start of a trend.
Exactly. Ivermectin and 5000-7000 mg daily vitamin D is the prophylactic that everyone should be taking.
My cousin is in the ICU with COVID.
He was fully vaccinated.
The vaccines are NEVER going to be a silver bullet, but we are seeing some signs that they are having worse breakthrough cases then could be expected.
However, my cousin’s wife who is also up to date in shots and was caring for him till she could no longer do so, is clear. No infection.
Of course it’s been isolated. It’s also been imaged on both scanning and transmission electron microscopes (https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/novel-coronavirus-sarscov2-images). We’ve looked at the thing. Many times. Further, we have the entire genetic sequence. And by “we” I mean humanity. It’s free to look at: https://genome.ucsc.edu/goldenPath/help/covidBrowserIntro.html
The entire genome is known and has been published. Same for all known variants. It’s all at the link above so you can verify for yourself.
You’re right that there’s two separate groups on this. But one will give you verifiable facts from authoritative sources so you can see for yourself. Why? Because observable reality is usually pretty convincing to rational people. The other side will make wild and crazy claims, wild and crazy predictions, none of them will prove correct, and they’ll never acknowledge that fact. They’ll provide no evidence; just hearsay from anonymous “sources”. Or unsubstantiated opinions from “doctors” who claim light bulbs cause school shootings and people need to sleep on the ground (something called “Earthing”).
Consider the track record for any sources you use. Do they make wild and crazy claims with no evidence and never acknowledge when they’re wrong? Or do they show you actual, verifiable evidence so you can see for yourself?
Dr. Harry Risch, Yale doctor, discussed this on WarRoom a few days ago. Worth taking a listen but you can read it here.
Bombshell: 60% of New Covid Patients Are Vaccinated
https://pandemic.warroom.org/2021/04/19/bombshell-60-of-new-covid-patients-are-vaccinated/
I’ve read extensively on these vaccines. They aren’t actually vaccines they’re experimental drug therapies. We won’t know the effects until many months out. I won’t go near those so called vaccines. There are great therapeutics and drugs to help most recover from this virus if they get them early enough.
I’m so sorry for your cousin and I hope will be ok.
I am not combative. I am simply telling you you have no idea what you are talking about.
You are not a scientist are you?
You have no experience in molecular biology, do you?
You let the media lead you by the nose.
If you had any background in biological science you’d be able to discern rhetoric and hype from established scientific fact.
Again, provide a reference to any study about any strain that shows greater transmissibility or pathogenicity.
Not a media article.
why should anyone believe anything that the cdc, fauxi, and the scientific community says about a so called “deadly virus” when they refuse to speak up about the dangers of our feral government opening the border, inviting, and then distributing thousands of disease carrying invaders across our country during a so called “global pandemic”???...
Do you ever get tired of spamming the same non sequitur over and over and over again on thread after thread?
please answer the question...
I’m sorry to hear about your cousin. Prayers for his safe recovery.
You’re absolutely right that the vaccines are never going to be a silver bullet, but the numbers are in the ballpark of what’s expected. The efficacy numbers presented in the trials reflected the reduction in severe cases. But that’s a relative number. Let’s look at a sample population of 330 million Americans. Let’s assume our R0 is around 5 (which accounts for the upper range of the latest variants - a kind of worst-case scenario). Herd Immunity Threshold is 1-1/R0 or 80%, so 264 million infections expected. Of those, 40% will be asymptomatic, 40% will be mild to moderately symptomatic (like a cold or allergies), 20% will require some medical assistance, and 5% will require hospitalization (severe cases). 3% go to the ICU and 0.65% die.
Let’s take that hospitalization number. 5% of 264 million is 13.2 million. No vaccine, we see 13.2 million Americans hospitalized with COVID-19 at some point. The vaccine reduces that by ~95%. That means we can ultimately expect some 660,000 still hospitalized, but over 12.5 million are spared that by virtue of being vaccinated. Your cousin is in the ICU, so let’s look at the 3%. 3% of 264 million is 7.9 million. Reduce that by 95% (vaccination) and you get 396,000. This would be approximately the expected number of people in the ICU with COVID-19 if the same exposures were to happen despite all of us being fully vaccinated at the start of the pandemic. In other words, that’s the maximum ceiling of breakthrough ICU admissions for fully vaccinated Americans. The real world expectation would be that would be significantly lower (lower transmission rate, many already recovered from infection before vaccines available, etc.) But that gives you an idea of just how many breakthrough infections are expected given the magnitude of the population.
We just have a lot of people, so even small percentages can add up to big numbers.
Probably because the CDC and the scientific community don’t insert political opinions on every single political issue that exists. In fact, the more they wade into divisive political issues like immigration, the less effective they’re able to be because half their intended audience simply tunes them out.
And for the record, Fauci is a media hound idiot who often says wild and crazy nonsense in an attempt to get more air time. I think he should have been fired a long time ago.
your refusal to answer my question indicates you’re here to push an agenda and should not be trusted...
My point isn’t that the vaccine is useless, or evil, but that many people are treating it like a shield and it is not that.
As for how effective they are, I have friends who work in the business. Worst case was around 65% effective, best in the 80% or more range. Now for at risk populations that is still a very effective range at the low end! My cousin has late stage dementia, is elderly, and hasn’t been in the best of health for a few years. His kids convinced him to get the shot, and with what they knew then it was the correct choice.
But the big concern I have is corona viruses are VERY slippery. Most of the current vaccines are targeting certain protein spikes on the outer ring, but the problem is that is a guess (a decent one, but a guess) that those same protein won’t shift enough to render the vaccine ineffective.
That is why corona vaccines in Humans don’t work that well. The dang bug slides so fast we can’t keep ahead of it, and using an CRSPR vaccine is risky in that you need to be dang sure you guessed right on what spikes cause the correct antibody response (pointing your rifle at the right target) or it is for naught. They seem to be decently correct, but we will see.
For my company internally, we are treating vaccinated people just like unvaccinated. HSE does not trust them.
Your non-stop spam of the same non sequitur indicates you’re here to push a narrative. I’m interested in facts; not storytime.
Please stop posting to me.
They are a new type of vaccine, using protein mRNA to simulate the “spikes” on the virus shell that can provide an antibody response without using a dead or live virus.
It is similar to a dead virus vaccine.
it’s a fair question that you refuse to answer...
you responded the same way exDemMom did yesterday and she got so flustered that she inadvertently admitted she is a scientist that’s employed by the federal government...
Indian Covid-19 Variant Found in U.S., Across Globe as Foreign Help Arrives
A variant of the coronavirus first spotted in India has been detected in the U.S. and 18 other countries and territories, adding to a growing roster of evolutionary spinoffs of the virus that scientists and health authorities are keeping under close observation.
The variant, known as B.1.617, isn’t as well studied as other worrisome variants—some of which are also circulating in India—and its role in driving India’s current wave of infection isn’t entirely clear. The surge in cases followed a loosening of restrictions and a large number of religious and political gatherings.
Scientists are working to understand how its precise set of mutations affects its ability to spread from person to person and if those mutations give it an edge over our immune defenses, vaccines included.
With little sign of any reprieve Tuesday from the surge in infections that has overwhelmed hospitals in many parts of India, the army was deployed to assist with medical care as a convoy of tanker trucks transporting oxygen arrived in the nation’s capital. Foreign help began arriving in the country, including 100 ventilators and 95 oxygen concentrators from the U.K., the first of a large number of shipments from there and elsewhere.
The B.1.617 variant was first detected in India in October and has since spread elsewhere in Asia as well as to North America, Europe and the Middle East. The variant’s telltale genetic fingerprints have been recorded in countries including the U.S., U.K., Greece, Singapore and New Zealand, according to Gisaid, a global database for researchers tracking variants. Cases have also been detected in Japan, according to the government in Tokyo.
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