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CDC VAERS and Covid-19 ‘Vaccines’: Under Reporting Adverse Events, Hiding Stroke Data? 
freerepublic.com ^ | 4/25/2021 | vanity

Posted on 04/25/2021 8:08:42 PM PDT by ransomnote

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To: absalom01

Why the hell aren’t people being tested before getting the so called vaccine? The amount of blind following and medical malfeasance going on right now is disgusting. And I sincerely hope that the schools and businesses requiring vaccines arensued out of existence if even one person dies or is disabled or permanently ill from this unproven crap.


21 posted on 04/25/2021 8:46:44 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: digger48

Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery.


22 posted on 04/25/2021 8:48:51 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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To: absalom01

Yes but should this promising technology be inflicted on otherwise young and healthy people.


23 posted on 04/25/2021 8:54:31 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Nor is it refutation thereof.

It is evidence without error bars assigned; nonetheless, the more severe the reaction, and the closer in time to the jab (especially when there were no symptoms consonant with the possible adverse event, prior to the jab), then the more likely it is a direct result.

In other words, shove it where the sun don't shine, troll.

You and the other trolls were not so giddy about loudly downplaying all alleged cases of death by COVID.

Why the sudden reversal?

It is after all, about safety, in either case.

24 posted on 04/25/2021 8:57:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Bob Ireland; Cathi
Does the virus itself cause similar issues with iron/ferritin?

The Lancet reports 20% or more of COVID patients have Deep Vein Thrombosis (most often in the legs; the risk is breakaway clots which travel to the lungs or brain).

25 posted on 04/25/2021 9:00:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Drago

False association; those deaths reported to VAERS will likely be those in a relatively short time frame after the jab.
And your makeshift handwaving does not account for adverse events short of death.

What would be interesting is to parse the VAERS by age group of jab recipient, and by existing comorbidities, if any.


26 posted on 04/25/2021 9:01:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
***Does the virus itself cause similar issues with iron/ferritin***

Not that I have read... but there is so much media today. VAERS could prove critically helpful in these mass media days but... As I ask: is the govt competent to manage this data?

***The Lancet reports 20% or more of COVID patients have Deep Vein Thrombosis (most often in the legs; the risk is breakaway clots which travel to the lungs or brain).***

While there may be some relation between CoViD and DVT, I know of no connection of DVT with the vaccines, especially the mRNA vaccines. Of course VAERS could prove pivotal in compiling, documenting and reporting such coincidences -- if the system is effectively applied.

In light of such possible shortcomings, such blogs as this might be to some advantage.

27 posted on 04/25/2021 9:13:39 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: ransomnote

LOL!
You can’t even find some stupid, click-bait, blog to support you LOL!
Disgusting.


28 posted on 04/25/2021 9:20:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Bob Ireland

A girl from India we know could not get pregnant. After years of Doctor visits she decided to see a nutritionist. The nutritionist told her to eat red meat for iron. After doing so, she conceived. Notice the elites want to cut our red meat supply. Perhaps the vaccines also serve a related purpose


29 posted on 04/25/2021 9:22:52 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: digger48

Prayers for you digger!

God Bless


30 posted on 04/25/2021 9:22:59 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (WINNING is not getting old!!!)
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To: Bob Ireland

That’s a good post.
VAERS is there for ANY report of ANY problem. They’ll figure out what it means ln time.
There’s also another portal to report things, V-Safe I believe it’s called.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vsafe.html


31 posted on 04/25/2021 9:25:32 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: ransomnote
***LOL!
You can’t even find some stupid, click-bait, blog to support you LOL!
Disgusting
28 posted on 4/26/2021, 12:20:52 AM by mrsmith***

An inordinately disturbed individual... ignore! ...or report to VAERS! :)

32 posted on 04/25/2021 9:25:34 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Bob Ireland
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.05.21252960v1.full

The spike protein introduces clotting even without entering cells.

Experimental evidence in vitro not in vivo.

OTOH, test tubes have confounding factors which are much more easily allowed for.

33 posted on 04/25/2021 9:29:46 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: mrsmith

Because of the novel nature of these vaccines, an app based system, VSAFE, was developed and widely implemented to report safety and side effect issues. Unfortunately, I cannot even express the number of times patients in my office demonstrated that the app does not work – all that happened was the spinning blue ball. In fact, when my own wife tried to report her side effects through the app, she gave up after 4-5 attempts. Never able to connect. The whole experience reminds one of the last time the Feds tried computer apps – the disastrous Obamacare sign up.

My grim job this week was to report a vaccine related death to the authorities. I have had to do this type of reporting on other occasions in my career, with other drugs, both approved and research trials, with both deaths and morbid complications. In every single instance in the past, without exception, I have been contacted within 1-2 hours by either the FDA or the CDC. They questioned me, discussed the particulars with me, and a collaboration was begun.

This death was much different.


34 posted on 04/25/2021 9:30:36 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Jan_Sobieski
***The nutritionist told her to eat red meat for iron. After doing so, she conceived. Notice the elites want to cut our red meat supply. Perhaps the vaccines also serve a related purpose***

Interesting... worth keeping in mind given the nut cases trying to control all human behavior these days.

For my part, I don't expect to conceive in any case. :^D

35 posted on 04/25/2021 9:30:43 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Cathi

Thanks for that report.
Yeah, typical gov app.

Sorry to hear of the response to that death.
Gov sucks.


36 posted on 04/25/2021 9:34:06 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

A little about the patient situation. She had her vaccine about 8 AM on a weekday. It was the 2nd shot. Very soon thereafter, she felt electric shocks over her entire body. Later, she was having trouble speaking and could not stand up. She began having severe problems swallowing. I advised to go immediately to the ER. I will not go into details here but suffice it to say, she was having a profound neurologic problem. It was not a simple stroke nor was it a blood clotting issue. Because of the timing of symptom initiation, it was clear to me that the vaccine was likely involved. She was diagnosed with a condition that is very very unusual and is often associated with vaccine administration. She had 5 weeks of very severe pain and did not recover. She was eventually placed on hospice and passed away. Before she died, she told me to make sure that everyone knows that these vaccines are not as safe as advertised. Believe you me, her family is doing everything they can to make sure that this story is known all over the community. The patient herself was a very well-loved individual here – and this has been a blow to the entire area.

I am a licensed physician in a US state. I am board bertified in Internal Medicine. I made every effort to immediately report this death to the federal officials. I called the FDA and ended up in voicemail hell. I called the CDC and was literally hung up on twice. Again, please contrast that reception to what I describe above in previous “non-crisis” years.

After multiple attempts, I finally decided to report to VAERS. This was almost a week ago. To date, the VAERS has no record of my patient. All that I have received is an email to confirm my submission. No one from any agency has made any effort to contact me in any way. It was of little comfort to note in in the New York Times, that the physicians trying to report one of the sentinel J&J stroke cases got a similar “hang up in your face” response from the FDA/CDC.

I want to reiterate – a patient has died. A board-certified internist feels this is likely vaccine-related. And no one has made any effort to contact me. None. A complete departure from the past. And this is a stringent safety-reporting system?


37 posted on 04/25/2021 9:36:57 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

Thanks again.

“She was diagnosed with a condition that is very very unusual and is often associated with vaccine administration. “

So, you’re saying this particular vaccine was not the cause?
That any vaccine would likely have had the same effect?


38 posted on 04/25/2021 9:41:54 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: grey_whiskers
***The spike protein introduces clotting even without entering cells***

I see the relationship with SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 and the formation of microclots, but the relation to the mRNA vaccines and iron is not clear to me - despite these two footnotes:

↵Pretorius, E., Vermeulen, N., Bester, J. & Lipinski, B. 2013a. Novel use of scanning electron microscopy for detection of iron-induced morphological changes in human blood. Microsc Res Tech, 76, 268–71.Google Scholar

↵Pretorius, E., Vermeulen, N., Bester, J., Lipinski, B. & Kell, D. B. 2013b. A novel method for assessing the role of iron and its functional chelation in fibrin fibril formation: the use of scanning electron microscopy. Toxicol Mech Methods, 23, 352–9.CrossRefPubMedGoogle Scholar


Undoubtedly there is much to be learned about this new mRNA technology. Hopefully someone is compiling data and correlating outcomes. :)
39 posted on 04/25/2021 9:49:50 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: mrsmith

I don’t know. I would interpret his remark “condition that is very very unusual and is often associated with vaccine administration” means that they likely have only seen it in that context.

You can read the whole thing in the link I provided earlier in this thread.


40 posted on 04/25/2021 9:52:44 PM PDT by Cathi
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