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Posted on 04/23/2021 12:18:11 PM PDT by ShadowAce
Yeah I’ve been bouncing around different flavors of Ubuntu for about the same amount of time. Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Linux Mint etc. I love the Plasma desktop now that they have it straightened out. It was buggy for years. Not real big on many KDE apps and their kstupid knaming konvention.
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I doubt they'd be successful at that. Instead I see this as a desperate move to remain relevant to software development.
Microsoft is playing catch-up with the software dev and dev/ops community. Linux became the preferred dev environment many years ago, not just because it's a better environment, but also when it became clear that Linux was going to take over the internet via "cloud" services and containers (docker, Kubernetes, etc.). Which it has done, in large measure. Windows simply cannot do what Linux does, and people want what Linux does.
Add to that Microsoft's dismal and utter failure in the mobile market, where Linux rules via Android.
Thus, running a Linux (dev) environment on Windows is a desperation move by MS to avoid Windows development being shunted into the corner completely by 2025 or so.
All that said, Windows will remain the majority user platform for a long time -- it's simply too entrenched to be forced out of hundreds of millions of homes and businesses. Windows applications will continue to be the default. But modern software development abandoned Windows years ago, and MS finally realized it.
I'm glad they did. I'd like to see Windows remain relevant for more than doing Excel spreadsheets in Accounting and playing video games.
My friend... You do not look around you and recognize the “MS extortion business model” that has now spread off to all tech and even non-tech markets?
They set the industry and market standard based on the proprietary “extortion” and “bait and switch” business model that has become the liberal business standard.
No... They will steal it and call it their own if they think they can get away with it, And this culture is just stupid enough to let them get away with it.
“Well if windows says I have to do this then I have to do this”. MS started this particular business model and these idiots are all falling for it. It is the new marketing standard. they sell stocks based on this new business model.
When I need to run Windows, which is almost never, I run Win7 in a virtual machine I built with QEMU and KVM on my Linux Mint computer. I think it’s safer that way.
WSL2 makes building and testing Docker
containers for Linux and Windows
possible on one machine. It’s a
perfect fit for my current assignments.
WSL2 makes building and testing Docker containers for Linux and Windows possible on one machine. It’s a perfect fit for my current assignments.That is pretty much the definition of "I use what works best".
Over the past 30 years I've used Linux, Windows, and MacOS (and even NetBSD) in turn as my primary workstation environment, and my personal home environment. Windows is terrific, until you have to get under the hood to do anything to it other than run for-Windows applications, at which point it becomes a battle. MacOS was much the same, although somewhat better than Windows. Linux was a battle from the get-go, because the desktop just wasn't ready for prime time. Yes, it's gotten much better, but it's still the case that I use my Linux workstation as a multiple-XTerm server with a browser 99% of the time.
The major thing stopping me from making use of this "Linux on Windows" stuff is that I absolutely refuse to install Windows directly on metal.
Let me be clear -- I don't disagree with any of the historical data you quote. Microsoft has been horrible and has not abandoned Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, although it's not as egregious or overt these days. But I honestly don't think they're going to be able to co-opt Linux as you predict. It's just too easy -- and far less expensive -- and most important, mission-critical -- to run Linux natively.
But suppose in 5 years Microsoft does manage to make Linux-on-Windows the default way that the world does Linux software development (Embrace). They will find a brick wall of resistance to the "Extend", unless they're somehow able to co-opt Linux Torvalds and he leads us all off the cliff like the Pied Piper. (Granted, strange things do happen in business.)
The ultimate brick wall is that no one -- no one -- is going to give up being able to run Linux standalone. It's how the internet works, it's how containers work, it's how cloud clusters work, etc. Those aren't Windows computers out there.
So if Microsoft tries to corrupt Linux it simply isn't going to work.
Copying ShadowAce for optional comment. :-)
I am making note and accepting the knowledge that both you and ace have over my own skill set. And I hope you are right my friend. But here are two words in the English vocabulary that scare the hell out of me. They are the words “Embrace” and “Trend”.
Look around you at what just those two words have created. This is not just about Windows or Linux... It is about the societal culture that will force acceptance of MS over all else because they contributed more than anyone else.
Rainbow OS forever brother! ? It is time for “embracing” blockchain P2P and ditch the top tier servers. If we do not start now the chance will be gone... This is why we have gone Zeronet and Qtox.
You really need to come drop in... We have CPU Engineers and more in there my friend. We are working on REAL solutions. I think you might just find it on another level.
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The proper way to run windows is as a VM under Linux.
I agree with your assessment. Windows is being completely destroyed everywhere but the desktop. The datacenter is absolutely owned by linux for many reasons, in every area except mail handling. Exchange still rules that in corporate environments, and that is one thing that I really wish we had a really strong Linux contender for.
MS is trying to bolt linux on to windows. I suspect (and hope) that they will ultimately fail in that because it is obviously exactly that: a bolt on solution, not something organic. It will be really interesting to watch over the next few years as entirely new classes of malware springs from the cracks between the two subsystems.
Frankly, I'd be more worried about his untimely demise. We're talking billions and billions of dollars here. That's real money, and people will kill for it.
"RAIL copies pixels over RDP whereas VAIL uses memory shared between the host PC and the WSL2 VM. WSLg is meant to use VAIL but perhaps falls back to RAIL in some circumstances. According to the docs, both RAIL and VAIL are now implemented in FreeRDP."
Everyone here is glad that the writer knows what he is talking about, because we (mostly) sure don't!
Valid point. But I would posit that they don't have to.
Without getting into the whole "Linux" vs. "GNU/Linux" kerfluffle, I would also note that while the name "Linux" has become synonymous with the operating system, not just the kernel, Old Man Stallman is having a hell of a time keeping -his- head above water, despite his crucial role in not only creating GNU but pushing the free-and-open-source movement.
By my reckoning, TPTB won't have to kill Torvalds outright. All they have to do is play off his famous penchant for abusive language and attitude, some politically incorrect statement, or some sexist/racist/etc. act in a past decade, and BINGO they cancel him.
That way he not only gets pushed aside, his legacy gets tarnished and he becomes an Enemy of The Party, and ultimately a Non-Person. Stallman, via his tone-deaf comments, is well on the way to that fate -- it's not hypothetical.
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