Posted on 04/21/2021 7:54:57 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
The coterie of flat earthers is strong tonight.
Thanks for all you do.
Appreciate it, doc. ;)
The “Fourth Wave” Chris Wallace warned us about 3 weeks ago on Fox News Sunday appears to have hit Texas.
The 7 Day average daily death count Spiked up to 56 from 54 two days ago (in a state of over 29,000,000 people that is getting an extra estimated 500 covid positive illegals into it, per day).
But even with the death spike of 2, its still 1/4 of the 226 deaths/day on March 3rd when Biden labeled us Neanderthals for thinking masks are stupid and don’t work.
The “Fourth Wave” Chris Wallace warned us about 3 weeks ago on Fox News Sunday appears to have hit Texas.
The 7 Day average daily death count Spiked up to 56 from 54 two days ago (in a state of over 29,000,000 people that is getting an extra estimated 500 covid positive illegals into it, per day).
But even with the death spike of 2, its still 1/4 of the 226 deaths/day on March 3rd when Biden labeled us Neanderthals for thinking masks are stupid and don’t work.
The constant rate of decline in cases beginning early January is well in advance of the vaccine rollout. If the vaccine(s) was the primary factors in the decline, the rate wouldn’t be constant.
When did the vaccine rollout start?
Well, the natural immunization from infection is a big factor in the drop in deaths but vaccines came soon after and may be the predominant factor.
Hard to say IMO. Both count.
The easy part is over. Everyone who wanted to get a vaccine already got one. The remaining unvaccinated population is skeptical so it would be harder to continue with the vaccine rollout. This isn’t like Israel where the government said that everyone had to get one so they went out and got it.
Not to argue your point, vaccine rollout has concentrated on urban areas- most noticeably with “mass vaccinations”.
Rural areas will follow as the rollout adjusts to the “market”.
The numbers support vaccination.
In an appreciable way, mid January. The rate of injections triple over the weeks/months that follow.
The curve in the “New Cases” chart would begin to taper early January eventually with a downward curve. But that’s not what’s shown. Instead there’s a sudden change the 1st week of January followed constant rate of decline for the 4 weeks that follow leading to a leveling and mild climb ~8 weeks later in March. That pattern does NOT speak to the touted efficacy of the vaccine at the rate it was administered — quite the opposite actually.
The “New Deaths” chart is closer to what I’d expect to see. But it’s oddly inconsistent with the related charts. Perhaps the vaccine is preventing deaths related to the SARS-CoV-2, or more likely the flu season has come to a close.
I mentioned the rate of injections tripled since the beginning of the year. But notice all three charts have leveled a number of weeks ago despite the rather large rollout.
Based on the charts, I can only assume something else is going on independently of the vaccine.
>> The numbers support vaccination.
Not sure about that. See #11 above.
The numbers at this site seem IMO to indicate a cause beyond “natural” immunity. And in addition to.
I trust “death” numbers more than any other.
Sorry. here’s the link:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/index.htm
The Death numbers are not aligned with the vaccine rollout. The meat of the Death curve precedes the prevailing vaccine rollout by a month. The offset is further widened by the ~2 week incubation window and also the “necessity” for the 2nd shot.
There’s a sudden decline in death beginning February. That means the initial infections occurring two weeks prior in January became far less fatal.
There’s a gaping hole between cases/fatalities and the vaccine rollout — that is, if you trust the charts above.
Thanks for the link!
Not sure I’m following you but agree that the “wild” or “natural” immunity has to be a big part of the change in deaths.
Yes, agreed.
There is more than one factor at work. Some are not related to the vaccines at all. At least two are: The vaccines primarily reduce case severity in those vulnerable to severe cases.* Mild (but not totally asymptomatic) case numbers might actually go UP slightly due to this, and mild cases may be the predominant spreaders, much as flu victims in early stages of flu are often the main spreaders.
Further, behavioral changes are likely a very large factor in case numbers. (”I’m vaccinated, no more mitigation for me, because I won’t get seriously ill.”) Our culture is increasingly devoid of self discipline.
*Apply that to the fatalities numbers...
Variants may not be affecting the numbers in the vaccinated group much, but they may be a large factor in the remaining unvaccinated group. Consider India, which was doing quite well, and then “something changed”. They just passed 300k cases per day, and 2k fatalities per day. I’m guessing 5k fatalities per day in 2-3 weeks is baked in, now. Are those shape curves what we’d be seeing, maybe starting in March, less the vaccines?
Despite a bunch of FReepers pointing to HIGHLY flawed “studies” to the contrary, even the ham handed and ham fisted mitigation policies imposed in many US states, or their endings, have some effects. Opening back up must be a factor too.
And so on.
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