Posted on 04/20/2021 7:25:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
I made a screen grab, from the Stanford study link, to carry around if any Mad Mask Karen’s try to force me to wear an unhealthy mask.
Most, here in TX, have chilled...but, we still have a few.
This should be sent to all docs offices, too.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/
I bet some of them from 100 years ago are.
And I wonder if they put the same chemicals on them then that they do now. And I wonder if they wore them for extended periods of time then as they do now.
Somebody should do a study. Oh, wait. Somebody did.
See linked article for more information.
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They don’t wear them all the time.
Surgical masks are effective in preventing some bacterial infections, but useless for viral infections.
Thought I was updating rather than double posting. Apologies. Simply wanted to be able to reference your post.
As for whether it was a Stanford study, I can't find any good evidence that it was. My initial assumption would be that anything published at the US National Library of Medicine (National Institutes of Health) would carry a fair amount of credibility, but I see that it's taken from a publication called "Med Hypotheses", and the title itself contains the qualification "A health hypothesis".
The abstract says, "The current article comprehensively summarizes scientific evidences with respect to wearing facemasks in the COVID-19 era, providing prosper [typo for "proper" --a trivial error, but not a good indication of accuracy] information for public health and decisions making." In other words it's not the result of experiments done by the author at Stanford or anywhere. It's merely the author's opinion of studies done by others.
At the CDC there are contradictory opinions and links to contradictory summaries of studies. I agree that news of this publication shouldn't be suppressed, but see no reason to assume that its conclusions are correct.
Bookmarking what must be about the fiftieth study that concludes masks don’t stop viruses and cause secondary problems.
FWIW the author is a clinical exercise physiologist, not a medical doctor. That is a PhD, not an MD, though I’d note that increasingly PhDs are if anything the preferred medical research credentials over MDs.
>> “Bookmarking what must be about the fiftieth study that concludes masks don’t stop viruses and cause secondary problems.” <<
It’s not a study except in the sense that it’s someone’s opinion after evaluating the experiments done by others. It’s an opinion.
I guess I still only have 49 studies bookmarked then.
“an expert in or student of the branch of biology that deals with the normal functions of living organisms and their parts.”
“Clinical physiologists are also called physiological scientists, and they work in hospitals and healthcare facilities. Their job involves examining and monitoring physiological organs of the human body to diagnose and offer treatment for physiological disorders and long-term illnesses.”
This is a good technical presentation of their research findings. Science! My overview was just that, no more.
Karens on the mask subject have no science, just mantras chanted over and over.
>> “I guess I still only have 49 studies bookmarked then.” <<
How many have you bookmarked for the other side?
Here’s my opinion. (You can cite it as “a South Carolina study” because I’m in South Carolina, or “an American study” because I’m in the United States. :-)
The article mentions how small an individual particle of the virus is. So what? It’s my understanding that most of the virus is not in that form but clustered into larger droplets of moisture. Also it apparently takes more than a tiny trace to make people sick, else everyone would have gotten it by now (in places were the virus is common). So to be helpful, all that’s necessary is for masks to reduce the distance that the larger droplets travel before falling to the floor.
Early on, before I even got a mask — and not knowing which so-called experts to believe — I did an experiment with a folded over t-shirt. I held my hand a couple of feet in front of my mouth, and coughed. Without the t-shirt over my mouth, I felt a distinct whiff of air on my hand. With the t-shirt covering my mouth, I didn’t feel anything. Yet air contains many tiny molecules. What seems to be happening is that most of them get through, but they are not propelled as far.
All the masks need to do is reduce the amount of the virus being propelled far enough to reach others. People are typically a good bit farther apart than the distance to my hand (less than 3 feet). What I did convinces me that air — and what’s in it — is slowed by a mouth covering, so the moisture droplets that contain most of the virus — and perhaps even smaller particles — are more likely to fall the floor before reaching anyone. That’s just common sense.
Now that nearly all the high-risk persons have had a chance to be vaccinated, I see no justification for government requirements that masks be worn. I’m not convinced by these arguments that masks weren’t and aren’t helpful, though (in keeping the virus from spreading — whether they cause other problems I don’t know).
>> “...more likely to fall [to] the floor before reaching anyone.” <<
The word “to” was omitted — an indication of carelessness, so my study may not be 100% reliable (I’d estimate 98%).
Maybe ten. I’ve bookmarked everything I’ve seen posted here or run across in searches on other CV topics.
How many have you got?
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