Posted on 04/14/2021 6:10:50 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin
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David Chase: If he died unexpectedly and not while under a Doctor’s he HAD to have had an autopsy. By law.
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ransomnote: I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but corruption has rendered massive portions of our legal system useless.
‘By law’ was ignored to a historic level in 2020, countless times, all the way up to, and including, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
Our legal system was captured numerous ways. A few years ago, CISA made a rule that federal attorneys could not recommend for prosecution any voter fraud case without first seeking and obtaining permission from the Deep Stater in CISA first. Did you see how that worked? Yeah. “By law!”
I’ve seen accounts of distressed family members saying that their spouse, brother etc. died abruptly, without warning, after having the ‘vax’ and being told by their family doctor that they could have an autopsy, but it wouldn’t prove anything.
That’s because a doctor could prove someone died of a heart attack, but not what caused it, without years of advanced research to back up any assertions (this requires labs and expertise re RNA, DNA etc.)
Strokes, now common in records for Covid in VAERS, under a variety of alternative names, do not have a Moderna or Pfizer emblem on them -they just look like strokes.
In VAERS there’s a record of a patient dying and the ‘pathologist’ telling the family it was not necessary to report it to VAERS because it happened more than 24 hours after the ‘shot’. Yet others have scolded me saying VAERS is accurate because Covid deaths “have to be reported. By law.”
I’ve read countless deaths in VAERS by now. No prior symptoms, person has the vax, collapse the day or two after, decline, death.
Elderly person was fine (age is not a pathogen), has the vax, is found on the floor at home the next day, stroke etc. Often with signs of anaphylaxis etc.
These deaths are being excused because, “He was old...” Yet their flabbergasted care givers and family, are shouting, “HE WAS OLD, BUT HE WAS HEALTHY!”(active, stable, without symptoms). Then they have the vax and POOF, they’re gone.
If anyone was reporting deaths due to Covid vax administration ‘by law’, it would have been stopped within a week back in December.
VAERS data suggests it’s likely ‘open season with no bag limits’ on the elderly. I kept reading in disbelief, wondering if they were really dropping like flies, as VAERS data seems to hint.
Then a CNA posted a heartfelt video begging people to consider that the elderly are human too, and that we can’t just let them “DROP LIKE FLIES” as they are now, without acting, and that God expects us to act, and “What if it was YOUR Mother?!” I don’t see any posse gathering at the local pub to make sure this gets reported ‘by law’.
In fact, all it meant was shills gathered on that thread to suggest it was fake, the man was a paid actor reading a script.
No, wherever people gather, horrified at yet another senseless death, there are trolls sneering ‘nothing to see here” and making baseless, condescending assertions like yours.
“PS Eating carrots also causes the often long delayed consequence of dying in auto accidents!”
Except that any statistical analysis of carrot consumption would show almost a zero correlation with death at 47 yrs, unless there were a known medical issue for that person.
Everyone knows that the cv19/cv19vx scamdemic narrative is far more important than the life of any particular individual. Nobody will ever admit to causation wrt to these vax. I doubt if sufficient data to establish it either way has even been collected (full blood work, urine organic acid test etc)...nor will it ever be collected.
Why is it not too soon to die one day after receiving the vaccine?
Why rule out dying from something else?
Was there an autopsy?
Was there a test for syphilis or other STDs?
Was there a poisoning and the blame on the vaccine to throw off scrutiny for something of criminal foul play?
Where is Detective Lt. Joe Kenda when we need him?
Did the earth open up and swallow him and the mole people had their way with him before the earth spat him back out?
Did ninjas and pirates sneak in at night and assassinate him in his sleep?
Did a bug from planet Hiveworld enter his human domain and take his life?
So many interesting possibilities. As long as it ain't the vax, amirite?
Wow, I don’t think I’ve seen a subject that has generated as much vitriol on FR like the COVID19 “vaccination” question. Now, it seems we are divided, “vaxxers” versus “anti-vaxxers”. These labels are incorrect. I am not an “anti-vaxxer”. I have had many vaccines throughout my life.
I am definitely not going to get one of the current COVID19 until more is learned about them.
My goodness people, they are experimental. Why on earth would anyone would subject themselves to possible adverse reactions? Especially since they provide questionable protection against a virus that is not very deadly (or harmful for that matter) for the vast majority of people. Isn’t the rate of people that survive with no lasting problems around 99%?!
"There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man . . . A man is desperately making a call from a little known town somewhere in America, "I need to talk to Detective Lt. Joe Kenda right now!" "He might not like the answer to what killed Mr. Joe Smith!"
So sorry to hear that your dear dad passed, from shyphilis.
Because, regardless of the cause listed/mentioned/thought to be....it was actually syphilis.
Geez...what is it with you Vax Preachers™?? You stoop to sickening levels, just to justify/cheer on this experimental, unproven...and, even deadly agent.
Oh, wait....no one who’s received these agents have died from them, right?
I actually read the article. There is nothing written about any causation from the vaccine to her death.
Just that she had the vaccine and died later.
Did a meteorite hit her? It doesn’t say.
Wow, I don’t think I’ve seen a subject that has generated as much vitriol on FR like the COVID19 “vaccination” question. Now, it seems we are divided, “vaxxers” versus “anti-vaxxers”. These labels are incorrect. I am not an “anti-vaxxer”. I have had many vaccines throughout my life.
Precisely.
They are quick to label anyone who dare questions, or posts facts about these experimental agents, as anti-vaxxers.
Great posts, from both of you.
Actually I’m stating the opposite of what you’re perceiving I said.
No, I do Not know what cause the man’s death.
My point, neither does Jane Long.
So to throw a story out there about a healthy 70 y/o man that died shortly after getting vaccinated with no other facts is IMPLYING the man died from the vaccine.
I do know that the deceased will have a death certificate and on that piece of paper will be the “Primary Cause of Death” and if it applies “Secondary Cause”.
I do know that by law if someone dies and they are not under the care of a Doctor or facility an Autopsy must be performed.
My point was simple. I don’t know nor do I pretend to know what killed Jane Long’s friend.........but Jane Long doesn’t know that either.
“ Are you a medical professional?”
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Yes.
Yep...
And to all you suicide vaccinators out there who think you’re smart because you “did your research”, and who believe the “expert authorities” because they are on TV - it’ll be interesting to see what this Fall/Winter brings to everybody.
Nobody’s fire alarm bells went off when genocidal maniac Bill Gates pushed these vaccines?
Troll
Hope you took your suicide shot with a smile.
She’ll continue to vote Democrat.
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We have a thread winner, ding ding!
Ok MaâÂÂam, here I go.
Before I get started in replying......you are a very challenging person to debate.
So I think I will lend my bit of knowledge rather than deny your statements/facts as you see them, with my own statements/facts as I see them.
You may or may not know I have decades of experience in EMS in the City of Detroit and I took part-time gigs in the suburbs during my off days.
We worked 24 on and 24 hours off.......until the Union screwed that up and thought we liked 18 hour shifts but our pay from over-time dropped.....but I digress.
I was a Westside medic.......in the day, the Westside of Detroit had the worse to offer. The most of everything.
There were suppose to be 11 units on duty at all times. 3 of those trucks were Advanced Life Support. The other 8 units were Basic Life Support.
I was an ALS unit.
When you work EMS in a large city like Detroit, Chicago, L.A., Miami, you often work with the Police, Fire Dept. (Detroit EMS is considered a division of Detroit Fire) and the Medical ExaminerâÂÂs Office.
I assure you, people die everyday that seemed healthy. People die young from what most would consider an older personâÂÂs disease or event.
People die in all age groups from CVAs (strokes) and AMIs (heart attacks.)
Before Covid, people have died unexpectedly.
Speaking for Detroit only, when someone calls to report a body in an alley or vacant abandon house, EMS is sent.
Sometimes we were dispatched to âÂÂcheck the welfareâ of a friend, grandparent, or anyone who hasnâÂÂt been heard from for a while or didnâÂÂt answer their phone. Whatever the case.
If we found a person deceased, we would have to call the âÂÂMeat WagonâÂÂ, AKA Coroner.
Over the course of many years we have located/discovered many people dead.
With most trauma we can see the visible cause of death. As you can imagine.
With decease, itâÂÂs nearly impossible to determine the cause of death just by looking at the body.
So if someone died of a heart attack or stroke or anaphylaxis, the Medical Examiner on scene canâÂÂt rule the cause of death, neither can I or my partner.
An autopsy is required. In fact, even if the cause of death is obvious, letâÂÂs say a GSW to the head, an Autopsy is still required.
Anaphylactic shock is a very real adverse reaction to the Covid vaccines........however ALL vaccines have a risk of the patient being allergic and having an adverse reaction.
If I had to list the causes of Anaphylactic shock in order of the most to the least that I personally responded to, it would be easy:
#1 Bee Stings.
#2 Food, usually seafood, nuts, dairy.
#3 Medications
#4 Unknown
Now on to the CNA and his video...........as I know you are well aware that I could make a video and seem sincere and traumatized and start posting it to see if it got traction.
I actually thought of doing just that and after a short time revealing it was a hoax. (On a different subject matter however).
I have always been amazed and curious when I would see people in your group on a certain thread investigate every frame, inch, background, wall decor and people associated with a video. Ashli Babbit comes to mind, Joe Biden comes to mind.
Yet, a video made by someone no one knows, is suppose to be accepted without any verification?
No investigation, no one tried finding out if it was true, none of the regular âÂÂdetectivesâ picked it apart. I wonder why?
I donâÂÂt sneer at death......I spent most of life fighting death.
Finally........in an odd twist, you have a very valid point regarding Laws. I actually share your distrust of Government. I mean, hell, theyâÂÂve earned it.
But I donâÂÂt think every single person except for people who are against the present Covid vaccines are involved in a cover up.
Some unknown senior citizen dies after getting a vaccine in some remote or even populated place somewhere in America.......I donâÂÂt believe that every medic is in on a cover up. I donâÂÂt believe every Medical Examiner is a part of the deep conspiracy.
The M.E.s I knew would sound a trumpet type alarm if someone wanted a falsified death certificate.
Keep in mind, when mask were first introduced and mandates began......I saw accounts of people saying they knew folks that dropped dead from wearing a mask. I watch videos of people saying their friend, spouse, cousin died due to mask wearing.
Post after post of how the mask was killing us because it wasnâÂÂt allowing air in. (Yet surgeons perform surgeries for hours and hours wearing a mask)
Perhaps thatâÂÂs why IâÂÂm cautious of random videos posted by unknown people regarding a presently debated hot topic.
I went long. WasnâÂÂt suppose to though.
Have a great day.
That is interesting....
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Much more research than an EMT could do or has any knowledge of.
Your opinion is invalid.
Now on to the CNA and his video...........as I know you are well aware that I could make a video and seem sincere and traumatized and start posting it to see if it got traction.
So your response to this male nurse is to call him a liar. Okay. And his motive for making all this up is what? Fun? Aren't you sick of people (you) who take apart everything in the mountains of eyeball testimony, stats, and scientific opinions one by one until nothing remains but your pretty, derp state, 'narrative'? I am. Those people (you) are fools.
I donâÂÂt believe that every medic is in on a cover up. I donâÂÂt believe every Medical Examiner is a part of the deep conspiracy.
They don't have to be. Like I said, its nearly impossible to determine vax complicity (or so I hear) by a simple autopsy. all they have to do is go with their routine and what they CAN determine as cause of death.
Not only that, who wants to take the risk of being ostracized, fired, de-platformed, and ridiculed by the establishment, media, peers, supervisors, funders. and the likes of you.
Look at what you're doing to this male nurse, for example.
No. The 'conspiracy' lies at the top of the food chain and is not contained to 'medical professionals', fake news media, politicians, billionaires, and derps of all types. You saw just recently that CNN admits to 'over-hyping' the corona for ratings? That's the least of it.
Medical people are simply cogs in the wheel. Most of them have no idea how they fit in to the conspiracy.
By the way, Chase. You're not hard to debate at all, even for someone with minimal 'medical' experience (me and Ransomnote).
Debating is easy when truth is on your side. Its much harder when you don't, which is why you and these other vaxxer clones struggle so hard and have a hard time 'debating' Ransomnote.
As with Q, you people are incapable of escaping your box of thought. You're stuck in your medical matrix and think your past experience gives you some special access to the truth. It does not.
But the good news is, you're not alone. The various 'medical professionals' that spout on FR as if they're Jonas frikken Salk are part of your cohort.
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