Posted on 04/11/2021 8:00:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Up a little late tonight? Getting in a little N2O before bed LOL.
in vitro at least.
I have rx ivermectin numerous times. I have seen it work about 1/3 of the time. I have NEVER scene it work in late phase disease (inflammatory period) but have had occasional success with early and moderate diseases
While every one want ivermectin to worn the data are not there especially with the grandiose statement that it is a cure. It is not. Science evolves. We learn. There is a highly effective treatment but the HCQ and ivermectin conspiracy theorists don’t want to listen or have it.
The highly effective therapy is monoclonal antibodies. Bamlanivomab and Regeneron. You know. What they gave the president. When given in the first 10 days these therapeutics seem to arrest progression to high degree of effectiveness.
And yes. It irritates the conspiracy theorists however vaccination is an effective prophylaxis. But too many people right here are guilty of what the left has done. They have politicized the disease.
Regeneron is proven to work and it likely saved The Donalds’s life. He also.contracted 1.5 million doses for the American people before he left office which will be available by the end of June there’s 300,000 available now. The EUA already authorizes use for high risk out patient immediately after a positive test result the new EUA will allow close contacts that are high risk to get the antibodies as well. These are the same antibodies that a survivor would have or someone with any of the Mrna vaccines they all go the same thing teach the body to make killer antibodies or in REGEN COV they brewed them in vats and then mainline them into your bloodstream either way the antibodies are in the blood to attack the virus before it gets a food hold in the ACE2 cells.
Regeneron published their phase III results and it’s good news. 70% against death and hospitalization plus 80% reduction in seroconversion to active infection when given to exposed family members.
You beat me by 3 minutes. The actual cure for most people when caught early is the antibodies that’s just sound science. It makes prefect sense that the antibodies that the body makes to kill the virus when made by cloning the specific killer types harvested from survivors and then produced in mass quantities would kill the bug. But to many people are tinfoil loons who have this irrational hatred for any medical company. How do people think medical advances get found its private industry that spearheads it. How much medical advancements come from socialized medicine?
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RE: The highly effective therapy is monoclonal antibodies. Bamlanivomab and Regeneron. You know. What they gave the president. When given in the first 10 days these therapeutics seem to arrest progression to high degree of effectiveness.
And how much do these therapies cost the patient and how prevalent are they in hospitals?
Is this standard treatment for Covid-19 patients? If not, why not?
Also regarding Ivermectin working 1/3 of the time, do you know the under what conditions the 2/3 of the time it does not work?
the people in India are using the Ziverdo Kit which contains Zinc Acetate 50 mg, Doxycycline 100 mg & Ivermectin 12 mg Dispersible Tablets.
You can buy the kit online.
Then there is Xlear (nasal spray)- A Utah State University study found that a nasal spray like Xlear reduced the COVID-19 virus to ‘an undetectable amount’ in 15 minutes.
I have a pump bottle of Xlear and it damn sure opens up the nose to breathe. Had to order that but they say you can get Xlear at Walmart, Walgreens and a few other stores but I didn’t find Xlear in mine.
Anyway, that’s it for today my cereal is ah waiting!
“RE: Unfortunately India is now being decimated by a severe wave despite widespread ivermectin use.”
Actually, on Sunday, India’s infection rate was IDENTICAL to ours (still a record in absolute cases, but at 4 times our population, that can kind of be expected). Before yesterday, India was well below our rate, and they will likely be below our rate for most of the future (even with our rate being significantly down from its peak).
So it looks like our friend her is using a bit a bit of hyperbola to describe India’s condition. And I agree with others, as far as I know, Ivermectin is being used by health care workers in one state. It’s probably used more than that, but enough to affect infection counts throughout the country? No way!
The therapies are currently offered for free
It is an outpatient infusion and widely prevelant. It is the standard of care based on results
However our medical system is broken. I have sent numerous patients for infusion As they have said their primary doesn’t know about this. There are lists on the internet of infusion centers that offer this fherapy
If we knew what we were doing a positive teat that had symptoms would be immediately sent for this treatment. But we don’t have a central dissemination of this Info. Fauci has screwed the pooch by not promoting this. We have Facebook practitioners like the widely discredited American frontline doctors still screaming about HCQ which is ineffective and people right here who will not let their knowledge evolve.
The answer is vaccinate all who are willing snd make sure all who get sick get monoclonal antibodies within 5 days is symptoms. Simple. This satisfies everyone. And does not promote false science the the overt politics that have become the focus of both sides instead of fixing the problem.
I look at current misdirection in establishment medicine much like the misdirection that has taken place the last 60/70 years following Ancil Keyes and his heart disease /diet myths and high carb food pyramid. Made heart disease the #1 killer and type 2 diabetes endemic. Brings the industry billions in recurring and endless revenue.
The Israeli study is interesting when you get into the appendix. Relatively insignificant efficacy over doing nothing if I'm interpreting the graphs beginning at pg 23. Surprised it's available for dispensables to peruse.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765/suppl_file/nejmoa2101765_appendix.pdf
Thank you for the info.
The way this “pandemic”(?) was handled by the Fauci crowd is criminal.
Denying treatment options, that they knew about, was inexcusable.
Little or no risk and it should have been used widely.
It is just an opinion. It may not work for all people, but it works quickly for some if not most.
There is no downside risk that I know of.
Our local doctor who prescribed it is great at what she does.
She actually cares about her patients.
We live in the Big Nothing.
Yes. And it was used in some places in Texas early in this mess.
Denying treatment options is criminal fault.
You said: “It is an incomplete therapeutic and the data demonstrate this quite well. So please stop spreading opinion as fact.”
Did I call it a “cure”?
NO.
My 95 year old father took it in early December and 4 days after he had NO Symptoms and did recover. He was very sick when he tested positive.
What type of doctor are you?
From what I have seen, I agree.
Thanks. Pretty impressive chart.
Fauci is a bureaucrap.
How very, very Straw man of you.
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