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NYPD TWEETS ABOUT REMOVING 'ILLEGAL GUN,' GETS OWNED
guns.com ^ | 04/05/2021 05:00 AM | SCOTT GARA

Posted on 04/05/2021 7:00:24 AM PDT by COBOL2Java

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To: nesnah
Correct, and a double-action revolver (like the one shown) IS a semi-automatic weapon. One trigger pull gets you one shot with the next ready to go.

I never though of a double-action revolver as a 'semi-automatic." It doesn't automatically put the next round in battery when you fire it. I suppose you get one shot which each trigger pull, though.

41 posted on 04/05/2021 7:52:11 AM PDT by Fido969 ( Sc)
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To: MAAG
Well, here it is! On line 50 of the source code. Didn't have the time to sift through the code earlier (didn't think it was all that important), but I'm between projects at the moment...


42 posted on 04/05/2021 7:54:39 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fauci is a despicable little creep)
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To: BipolarBob
Saturday Night Special liberals crowed about back in the day. Liberals are emotionally stupid. These guns were barely functional when new. Almost useless.

The "Saturday Night Special" was typically a .25 acp. Less power than a .22, and they were cheap guns that jammed a lot. Saw many stories about someone being assaulted, and "the gun jammed."

My guess is the .25 acp saved a lot of lives by misfiring.

43 posted on 04/05/2021 7:55:00 AM PDT by Fido969 ( Sc)
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To: Durus

Yeah. Junk rounds with some sort of small explosive. Good thing they were junk.


44 posted on 04/05/2021 7:55:39 AM PDT by Yorlik803
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To: COBOL2Java

The guy had a cleaning brush with his piece. More like a responsible citizen than a typical gang-banger.


45 posted on 04/05/2021 7:57:30 AM PDT by Fido969 ( Sc)
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To: Fido969

Not substantially more dangerous than a 2x4.


46 posted on 04/05/2021 7:59:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: Rurudyne

I know...that never did make sense to me. Plus, what kid hasn’t thought about painting the orange tip black?


47 posted on 04/05/2021 8:00:11 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: Fido969; nesnah
Technically, revolvers are not classified as being semi-automatic.

A semi-automatic is a type of repeating single-chamber handgun that automatically cycles its action to insert the subsequent cartridge into the chamber.

A revolver uses multiple chambers and a single barrel.

48 posted on 04/05/2021 8:01:26 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fauci is a despicable little creep)
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To: Fido969
The guy had a cleaning brush with his piece. More like a responsible citizen than a typical gang-banger.

He was probably a collector. Way to go, NYPD!

49 posted on 04/05/2021 8:03:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fauci is a despicable little creep)
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To: Joe 6-pack

At least a cache!


50 posted on 04/05/2021 8:05:42 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: COBOL2Java

A revolver uses multiple chambers and a single barrel.


But the result is still the same. One pull, one bullet fired, with the next trigger pull producing another round fired.


51 posted on 04/05/2021 8:09:49 AM PDT by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: COBOL2Java

I have one of those turds that a guy gave me about 40 years ago. It’s a 22 short and I wouldn’t even begin to try and fire it...don’t trust the pot metal. You have to remove the cylinder to load it. Can’t trade in anywhere. Next reasonably close gun buy back maybe I can get a $100!😀


52 posted on 04/05/2021 8:14:58 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: nesnah
But the result is still the same. One pull, one bullet fired, with the next trigger pull producing another round fired.

Yes, but that doesn't make it a semi-automatic. "Semi-automatics" was the term used for weapons in which the subsequent round was automatically loaded into the same chamber. Revolvers have multiple chambers.

Revolvers are characterized as either single-action or double-action. What normally differentiates revolvers from semi-automatic pistols is that the semi-automatic makes use of a magazine which allows for a larger capacity, whereas revolvers "normally" allow for only 5 or 6 shots.

53 posted on 04/05/2021 8:17:55 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fauci is a despicable little creep)
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To: Bonemaker
I have one of those turds that a guy gave me about 40 years ago. It’s a 22 short and I wouldn’t even begin to try and fire it...don’t trust the pot metal. You have to remove the cylinder to load it. Can’t trade in anywhere. Next reasonably close gun buy back maybe I can get a $100!😀

Good gun for a collector. Although, as a collector, at this point in time, I have to confess, I'm not too interested. :-)

54 posted on 04/05/2021 8:21:06 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fauci is a despicable little creep)
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To: JonPreston

FReepers can do better!


55 posted on 04/05/2021 8:28:20 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: Fido969

A .22 can be plenty deadly. These comments are stupid.


So is a hammer.


56 posted on 04/05/2021 8:54:02 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: Fido969

The “Saturday Night Special” was typically a .25 acp. Less power than a .22, and they were cheap guns that jammed a lot.

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Not exactly. I had a Jennings .25 a few years ago, great little pocket pistol, mostly carried it around the yard for snakes and armadillos. Never jammed once, fairly accurate too.

Now, since .25 ammo was difficult to find and very expensive, I went to a .380, and also got a .22 revolver later. Two of them actually, one being a RG model RG14 that I’ve had for 15 years. Its the exact same gun used to shoot Reagan. Same barrel length, etc,

The RG14 is a cheap POS, yes. But it’s never failed me yet, plenty accurate, and not heavy when I carried it in the yard. They do have a tendency to locate the cylinder improperly and fire out of line with the barrel meaning a chunk of lead is spit out the side at the front of the cylinder, so far mine locks in place properly, I check it every time I clean it, and fire it maybe 2 shots a year anyway. These days, I usually carry the other .22 six shooter to begin with. It’s beside me now.

The one pictured in this thread is a different model, the one with the white handgrip has a logo that seems to say RG10, different pistol and I know nothing about that one. I do know it is definitely not the RG14. I think the one pictured earlier with brown grips is yet another model but I’m not sure, I didn’t see a model number. Might have overlooked it.

Is .22 more powerful than .25? Nope.

https://www.guns.com/news/2011/07/23/battle-of-the-mouse-guns-the-22-long-rifle-versus-25-acp

Depending on barrel length, some .22 revolvers might develop more muzzle velocity than the .25, but that does not always mean more knock down power or penetration when youre talking about a smaller chunk of lead. The heaviest .22 I’ve seen is 40 grain, while .25 is typically 50 or a bit more. (I did find one hollow point in 35 grain) The heavier bullet at similar speed would be more dangerous. But that’s with all other characteristics the same, as far as solid lead or jacketed, hollow point etc. If I had no other choice, I’d carry the little Jennings .25 I had 20 years ago rather than a .22 with same length barrel every time. Figure in my current 6.5 inch barrel six shooter, and some CCI Stinger hollow points, it’s a different story.

Overall, the .22 is only a more powerful weapon if you have a long enough barrel to let it use a little more of the gases behind it. Compare the .25 auto with 3 inch barrel to my .22 rifle with 22 inch, its a whole nuther world. Same can be said of any pistol. A [insert model here] .357 six shooter with 4 inch barrel will get nowhere close to the Marlin lever action .357 rifle with about a 20 or 22 inch barrel. Sweet rifle by the way...because it has enough barrel to take advantage of all or most of the expanding gases behind it. The rifle also won’t lose any power in the gap between cylinder and barrel. Ditto for semi auto pistol vs revolver.

I never knew this until I read some info about the CCI .22 ammo when it first appeared. The article said if you wanted to get full power out of the CCI MiniMag, use a 24 inch barrel, because they used a slower burning powder than many ammo manufacturers. Direct comparisons using the exact same rifle showed the CCI was a better round, more accurate and higher muzzle velocity. I’ve been using it ever since. Shame they’re shut down now and I can’t find CCI at all. They were purchased by Remington, it’s now shut down due to a lawsuit, and bankruptcy. Along with Remington and Norma ammo and Marlin guns. That’s just one of the reasons ammo is so hard to find, 3 major ammo manufacturers are out of commission.


57 posted on 04/05/2021 9:14:58 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (Nope, I'm not quite in the same pond with the other ducks...)
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To: dynachrome

That is the gun on the PD site - looks like about an RG14.

Here one in “poor” condition was sold for $35:

https://www.gunauction.com/buy/13070177


58 posted on 04/05/2021 9:30:16 AM PDT by Fido969 ( Sc)
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To: Paleo Pete
One reason for the idea of poor performance in a .25 acp “saturday night special” might be typical barrel length. 2 1/2 inches is a typical barrel for one of these little guns. Anything bigger than that will give you more muzzle force.
59 posted on 04/05/2021 9:43:02 AM PDT by Fido969 ( Sc)
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To: Fido969

Very true, most .25 auto guns do have short barrels.I think mine was 2.5 inch. Current Jiminez .380 is 3 I think, still pretty short, which is why I’ve always had a preference for a revolver. Not hard to find 5 and 6 inch barrels, and not too hard to control those.


60 posted on 04/05/2021 9:59:33 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (Nope, I'm not quite in the same pond with the other ducks...)
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