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We Need A National Referendum on 2-4 Issues-Name Them

Posted on 03/29/2021 7:03:33 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

It would go like California does. They put one issue on the ballot and everyone running has to take a side-no nuances. Issue one would be voter ID. Issue 2 would be finish the wall. Issue 3 would be school choice(think Covid). Issue 4 would be eliminate the income tax.

Prop 103 got voters off their dead behinds for the first time. Get enough states to get them on the ballot and the other states won't be able to ignore it.


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To: DIRTYSECRET

I’d love for us to elect the right people but looking back to 11/3/20, elections, for me here in PA, no longer work. It was stolen.


21 posted on 03/29/2021 7:34:25 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

ONE...Every adult must re-Register to vote with proof if citizenship
TWO...Every voter is tracked, ie, so they only vote once


22 posted on 03/29/2021 7:37:56 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: JonPreston

“The capital should rotate amongst regions and states.”

Very good Ransomed. Bring the government to the people. The NFL got smart and finally did it with the draft. All locals get a chance to get in the face of all reps.

Next will be the individual departments.


23 posted on 03/29/2021 7:39:30 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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To: ShadowAce

I knew that. There’s about thirty or forty more, including abortion.


24 posted on 03/29/2021 7:40:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Come on! We only need 3 or 4! Too many will confuse the voters and more will contradict others. Just pick the lightening rod-thought provoking issues that will stir debate. Eliminating the income tax would raise eyebrows-that’s the start.


25 posted on 03/29/2021 7:42:42 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Leaving aside the Constitutionality of the process, issue 1 should be a state matter and not a federal one. Issue 3 already exists. You are free to use government funded schools or private schools or home school. Don’t need a referendum for that. For issue 4 how would you fund the federal government?


26 posted on 03/29/2021 7:44:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I'd like to see every anti-gun/gun grabber have one of these signs in front of their house.

27 posted on 03/29/2021 7:44:11 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The presidency of Hunter Biden’s daddy.


28 posted on 03/29/2021 7:44:22 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Heh... Logic, yeah, like that would even work, even around here...

We’re living inside “Weekend at Biden’s” and if we don’t get this **** fixed with vote integrity, we’ll continue on in to “Weekend at Biden’s II”.


29 posted on 03/29/2021 7:49:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Make this: List of Federal Agencies

Fit back inside this: Article 1, Section 8

Do that one thing and everything else fixes itself.

30 posted on 03/29/2021 7:50:01 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Two will be good for now.

The Demagogic Party is a collection of violent rival street gangs. They have their media wing, partisan media shills, who spew DNC talking points and spin everything to the advantage of the DNC. But we can’t have a ballot proposal that says, “all media shills must be offed”.


31 posted on 03/29/2021 7:51:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Or the sign that says, “This house is defended by a gun owner. My neighbor, though, believes in gun control and has no such protection.”


32 posted on 03/29/2021 7:52:14 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: Buttons12

Remember-Prop 103 was California but the whole nation was talking about it. Perhaps several states should pick just one or 2 of these ideas for the ballot. The 9th circuit is now Republican so the left has to try something else.

Too many different issues is too much information. Follow the KISS(keep it simple) method.

Then there’s Virginia and NJ-2 statewide elections ripe for mischief.


33 posted on 03/29/2021 7:53:47 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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To: MileHi
There is no provision for a National Referendum.

No but states could do this. Since most of these are federal issues it would not carry any force but it would clearly show state and federal representatives the thinking of the voters.

It would be advisory.

Rather than a referendum I would call it 'Sense of the Voters' or something like that.

34 posted on 03/29/2021 8:04:16 AM PDT by usurper ( version )
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To: usurper

Ursuper is on to something. Just think how GOP legislatures in the swing states can affect the Governors races. WI, Penn, Az, Ks, and especially Mi/Ga. Then there’s the collateral races for the senate: Az./NV./NH./Penn.

We gotta do something.


35 posted on 03/29/2021 8:23:15 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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To: MileHi

There is no provision for a National Referendum.


And unlike the United Kingdom, Congress cannot just decide to have one, barring an amendment to the Constitution. There is, as you say, provisions for 2/3rds of the states to call for a convention for proposing amendments. Since it has never been done (unless you count the original Constitutional Convention that did away with the Article of Confederation) no one knows how that would play out.

Some fear that such a convention could radically alter the Constitution in ways we might not be happy with. And they could specify that ratification by the states be by ‘special conventions’ rather than state legislatures.


36 posted on 03/29/2021 8:24:34 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu
Some fear that such a convention could radically alter the Constitution in ways we might not be happy with. And they could specify that ratification by the states be by ‘special conventions’ rather than state

As I understand it, 2/3 of the states would have to agree. The left doesn't have the votes. We might.

37 posted on 03/29/2021 8:31:36 AM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

Just win the seats first. Those are details.


38 posted on 03/29/2021 8:49:27 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (`)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Universal voter ID
Sodomiage (gay “marriage”)
Federal welfare payments
School choice ($ follow kids to parents’ choice of school)


39 posted on 03/29/2021 9:03:52 AM PDT by redfog
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To: MileHi

“As I understand it, 2/3 of the states would have to agree.”


Two-thirds of the state legislatures have to call for a convention, three-quarters have to ratify.

The questions seem to be, can the states limit the scope of the convention when they call for one, or once 2/3rds of the state legislatures call for it, can the convention do what it wants?

The only amendment that was ratified by state conventions instead of legislatures was the 21st—the repeal of Prohibition. Congress must have thought that too many state legislatures were in the ‘dry’ camp for it to pass.

Who serves in the national convention and who serves in the states’ ratifying conventions (if that choice is made)? Dems seem to have a way of gaming the system. Who knows what they’d do?


40 posted on 03/29/2021 9:13:39 AM PDT by hanamizu
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