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Why did Ahmad Al Aliwi Al-Issa choose that particular grocery store (vanity-multiple images)
Free Republic | 3/24/2021 | RCone

Posted on 03/24/2021 5:25:17 PM PDT by RC one

Why did he choose that particular King Soopers supermarket? Let's look at some facts.

and check out this article from the New York Post. pay careful attention to the picture of the home. In fact, let me make it easy.

Now that we have this knowledge, we can do a google search for grocery stores that are closer to the shooters home and we see that there were plenty of other targets that were closer. There was, in fact, a King Soopers that was located only 5 minutes away from him. Why drive 20 minutes away when there's a similar store 5 minutes away?

It sure does seem like he chose that target for a reason. Hmmm, I wonder what that could be:

It sure does look like this was a terrorist attack against the Jewish community carried out by a radical Islamic terrorist.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: alissa; boulder; bouldershooter; fbiwatchlist; passover; ramadan; syrian
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To: RC one

As I’ve said before...the people spreading this story are either really dumb or intellectually dishonest.

Of course King Sooper sells kosher items at Passover, all major supermarket chains do.

Of course there are Jewish shoppers who live near King Sooper and frequent the store, none of that is in dispute.

That does NOT mean that King Sooper is a “Kosher market” or a “Jewish market”, anymore than Safeway or Albertson who sell the same kosher Passover items are.

Likewise, while there is at least 5 Jewish congregations in the greater Boulder area, none of them are in the same neighborhood or even the nearby vicinity of the shooting location.

IOW NOTHING ties that location to the Jewish community at large, other than mo rons like you spreading rat poison.


101 posted on 03/25/2021 11:40:36 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck
"IOW NOTHING ties that location to the Jewish community at large"

I think you have a reading comprehension problem. Look at the picture real close. Read the highlighted words out loud if it helps.

A neighborhood with more primary Yiddish speakers than in 98.8% of all other American neighborhoods. That is most definitely a Jewish neighborhood and that grocery store is most definitely located in the middle of it and it is most definitely accommodating to the local community's culinary needs iow, it carries Kosher goods..

That does NOT mean that King Sooper is a “Kosher market”

It's the 4th best Kosher Market in the Boulder area according to Yelp. Safeway is #2 and a spice shop in #1. Are they all purely Kosher markets? No. They simply accommodate their Jewish demographic. You'd have to be pretty stupid to think I was suggesting that King Soopers was a dedicated Kosher market.


102 posted on 03/25/2021 12:19:24 PM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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If one appropriately rounds up the number of Jews in Greater Denver to 100,000 from the 90,800 reported 2 years ago in the comprehensive survey study The 2018-19 Greater Denver Jewish Community Study: A Portrait of Jewish Life in the Seven-County Region, Boulder -- at less than 1/7th the population of Denver proper -- is a Jewish community. Remarkable. Mazel tov!


103 posted on 03/25/2021 2:37:40 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: RC one

I can only imagine how dumb/kooky you have to be to follow your “logic” and then conclude that the shooters intention was to attack Jews.

There are literally hundreds of more obvious targets in the greater Denver area than the ...checks notes...4th best kosher supermarket in Boulder.

Also, no idea where those screen grabs you’re posting come from, but I guarantee they’re not anything the shooter either looked at or posted online.

If you had an ounce of decency, you’d stop spreading malicious rumors you can’t begin to substantiate.


104 posted on 03/25/2021 3:06:53 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: qaz123
"While the majority of Colorado is about hunting, fishing and the outdoors and NOT skiing and snowboarding, I’ll go out on a limb that it has a pretty healthy gun culture. Regardless of what gun laws the Dems have been able to pass. Boulder is radical anti-gun, liberal city. City leaders tried to pass their an “assault weapons” ban and a high cap magazine ban awhile back. And I think there was something about registration in there as well, but not positive on that. Could it be that another reason he chose was because he was confident there would be no one toting a pistol to shoot back?"

I agree. Our son shops at this store and lives within a mile of it. I'd never thought of it as a Jewish store - just a nice, big grocery that stocks plenty of fresh and healthy food to appeal to its customer base. I'm sure they have a selection of Kosher foods, along with lots of vegan options and bulk trail mix. There are many grad students living in the area - sharing sky-high rent among several people to live in mid-century ranch-style houses. The prevailing politics are of the college town left, with gun control a priority. Between gun restrictions and anti-gun sentiment, he was unlikely to encounter an armed citizen in this community.

105 posted on 03/25/2021 4:11:43 PM PDT by Think free or die
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Even more remarkable is the map and legend from the next page in the The 2018-19 Greater Denver Jewish Community Study: A Portrait of Jewish Life in the Seven-County Region.

Each dot represents 50 Jewish households.

The red indicator is roughly the location of the King Soopers. So within that grey bounded area indicated by "Table Mesa", no less than 1,000 Jewish households.

It's almost as if al-Issa chose that location deliberately.

106 posted on 03/25/2021 4:37:47 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: mac_truck
He only lived 22 minutes away. He was intimately familiar with the area and its inhabitants. he didn't need the internet to know where the Jews would be 5 days before Passover just like I don't need the internet to know where the Christians will be 5 days before Christmas.

You were adamant that this wasn't a a Jewish neighborhood but, yet, here we see that, indeed it was. That argument is over. You lost. He irrefutably targeted a Jewish neighborhood.

There are literally hundreds of more obvious targets in the greater Denver area than the ...checks notes...4th best kosher supermarket in Boulder

A.) Attacking Jewish grocery stores is not unprecedented, even here in America. There was a similar attack in jersey City just 2 years ago. There were literally hundreds of other targets in New Jersey that would have made better targets but they picked a Kosher supermarket in Jersey City. They went in with an AR15 and a shotgun and started shooting Jews. It's very similar to what we have here actually except there were two of them and they managed to kill three Jews.

B) I never claimed that this guy was a tactical genius. I would agree that he isn't. I think his mission was a failure in fact. He killed no Jews that day but I think he meant to.

107 posted on 03/25/2021 4:39:20 PM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: mac_truck
I posted this on another thread but all the research was done in response to this post so it's actually meant for you.

I researched the table mesa area where this particular King Soopers was located and found this:

In the entire world it is estimated that there are only 600,000 people left that speak Yiddish. About 107 of them live in the Table Mesa neighborhood (population 3,360). That's 31.8 per 1,000 inhabitants. About 250,000 of them live in the United States (population 328.2 million) so that's 0.76 per 1,000 inhabitants. It is estimated that in Israel (population 9.3 million) there are 250,000 Yiddish speakers left. That's 26.8 per 1,000. So it looks like there's a higher concentration of Yiddish speakers in Table Mesa than in Israel. That seems significant.

It seems pretty clear to me that this was a very Jewish neighborhood that this guy went out of his way to attack. The composition of the neighborhood would have been common knowledge to him.

I think the guy ultimately failed in his mission to kill Jews however.

This business of attacking Kosher supermarkets is not unprecedented either. There was a similar attack in Jersey City back in 2019. 2 gunmen entered the store that day and 3 Jews were killed in the attack.

108 posted on 03/25/2021 5:18:07 PM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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