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Tesla Now Accepting Bitcoin as Payment
Daily Forex ^ | March 24, 2021 | Ibeth Rivero

Posted on 03/24/2021 8:47:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

Yesterday, Bitcoin gained 0.48% against the US dollar, hitting the $54,331.0 level at the end of the session and breaking a two-day losing streak. Other cryptocurrencies did not follow suit, such as Ethereum which continued losing ground, falling by 0.85% and closing the session at the $1,668.77 level. Dogecoin followed, which fell by 2.72% against the US dollar and closed at the $0.053423 level.

Recently, Elon Musk said that Tesla will accept Bitcoin as payment, making official an announcement he made some time ago that pushed up enthusiasm for crypto in the markets.

"You can now buy a Tesla with Bitcoin," he tweeted, adding that Tesla is intending to manage Bitcoin payments using their own software and operate Bitcoin nodes directly.

Increasing institutional adoption, as well as fears for inflation, have been favoring Bitcoin's performance, even though there are still important investors and politicians that have expressed their doubts about them.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailyforex.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bitcoin; btc; crypto; cryptocurrency; elonmusk; tesla
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Seems 80% of the crap sold in the US is also manufactured in China...


We gotta suck it up and realize we are now a full blown Province of mainland China, compete with CCP installed political ‘leaders’ ... else someone somewhere sometime will have to change that by whatever means.


21 posted on 03/24/2021 10:38:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

If that’s the case, they need to start suppressing muslims here like they do at home....


22 posted on 03/24/2021 10:41:39 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Larry Lucido

Wonder if the IRS will take bitcoins it real money right.

/s


23 posted on 03/24/2021 11:07:13 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: battletank

Done!


24 posted on 03/24/2021 11:25:50 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: lwd

Yes. The IRS would treat it as taxable. Converting Bitcoin to the value of a Tesla in USD, then calculating the capital gain. So, if you have that much Bitcoin you’ve probably had it for a while, so assume your “cost” just went up 15%. Plus state tax.

Why you would trade in an asset that has an annual compound growth of 80% since 2013 to own a depreciating asset like a car is beyond me.


25 posted on 03/24/2021 11:39:14 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ConservativeDude

Nope. Not like stocks at all. It is treated as a piece of property. The differences are minor, but it’s not like a stock.


26 posted on 03/24/2021 11:40:46 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Tesla says they won’t convert it to fiat. So, they calculate the value of the sale on the current price, and you send them that. There is a network fee that has to be paid. That fee is dependent on network traffic levels—NOT the size of the transfer.


27 posted on 03/24/2021 11:42:54 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

but if you don’t sell, is it taxable gain? (and I guess I need to circle back with my accountant....that is what she said...)

similarly...this article says it is treated as a capital asset, and says parenthetically like stocks or bonds:

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/what-are-cryptocurrency-taxes/

as I read that article, I can’t see how it is different from a stock.


28 posted on 03/24/2021 2:20:06 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Vermont Lt

and just to clarify....I was referring to the appreciation aspect, not to the spend aspect...clearly, if you convert the BCT to dollars to buy a Tesla, that is no different from selling Tesla stock, to buy a Tesla.

The tax man gets his due.

But if if you just hold crypto, and it increases in price, no matter how much......that’s treated just the same as if you hold Tesla stock and it increases in price.

(After all, both crypto and Tesla stock goes down, also.......).


29 posted on 03/24/2021 2:24:12 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Yes. I must have misunderstood. The difference is the IRS doesn’t flat out ask you, under penalties of perjury, if you own or traded any stock.


30 posted on 03/24/2021 4:05:55 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ConservativeDude

Yes, you have to dispose of it to generate a taxable event. A trade for a car is taxable.


31 posted on 03/24/2021 4:06:51 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ScubaDiver

Yep.

Infiniti of Tampa for at least 2 years...

Q50, 3.0 t full package rocks.

5.56mm


32 posted on 03/24/2021 4:11:16 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho ain't my president.)
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To: M Kehoe

Oh forgot, they take gold Eagles too.

5.56mm


33 posted on 03/24/2021 4:14:54 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho ain't my president.)
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To: ScubaDiver

“Yes. The IRS requires any - emphasis on ANY - bitcoin transaction be reported to the IRS.”

Wrong. If you buy BTC and hold, there are no reporting requirements. The IRS is only interested in capital gains or losses.


34 posted on 03/24/2021 4:18:40 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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To: sergeantdave
Dude, before you scream 'WRONG,' maybe take the time to read the question I was replying to. It wasn't inquiry about buying cryptocurrency. It was a question about buying things with cryptocurrency.

Andy yes, the IRS demands any cryptocurrency transactions be reported to them, no matter how small.

And, no, the IRS is NOT 'only interested in capital gains or losses.' You will only owe taxes on the gains. But, you have to report all transactions.

35 posted on 03/24/2021 4:35:31 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Correct. There’s seems to be a lot of confusing with respect to the current IRS reporting requirements on crypto. Those requirements are - ahem - robust.


36 posted on 03/24/2021 4:38:00 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: ScubaDiver

“But, you have to report all transactions.”

Look, dude. There are no reporting requirements for purchasing bitcoin, dude. So quit pushing the BS, dude. Dude, you don’t know what you’re babbling about, dude. Purchasing bitcoin is a transaction, dude. You need not report it, dude.


37 posted on 03/24/2021 5:00:05 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Coinbase charges 1.5%.

If you're used to a stock or other trading platform, Coinbase Pro trades start at 0.5% fee.

38 posted on 03/24/2021 5:05:31 PM PDT by Database
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To: sergeantdave

Lolz. You still didn’t read the guy’s original question.


39 posted on 03/24/2021 5:10:24 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Vermont Lt

interesting! They DO ask that about crypto. Perhaps shows their fear?! I’d like to think so......


40 posted on 03/24/2021 5:28:49 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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