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Horowitz: Gov. Noem’s retreat on South Dakota transgender bill shows the need to make red states red again
The Blaze ^ | 03/23/2021 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 03/23/2021 10:49:32 AM PDT by ScubaDiver

Every statewide partisan officeholder in South Dakota is a Republican. The GOP controls the state House 62-8 and the Senate 32-3 — the largest majorities ever. Yet they can't seem to ban castration of minors or prevent men in female sports as part of the loony transgender agenda. What gives? They are plagued by the same business lobby preventing every other GOP supermajority state from protecting its historic cultural conservatism.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: sports; trans; transgender
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To: G Larry

the headline only crowd.


61 posted on 03/23/2021 12:06:16 PM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: romanesq

“But for those who see only black and white and can’t see the details Gov. Noem highlighted, yeah.”

The thing was that the bill BARELY made it to her - a bill that conservative governors everywhere dream of having land on their desks. All she had to do was sign it and she would have been in the TOP TIER for 2024, REGARDLESS of how the courts, Amazon, the Chamber of Commerce, and the Final Four reacted. Maybe her war chest would have suffered for signing it, but with the entire base siding with her, she wouldn’t have needed the money.

That’s why I’m thinking that she just doesn’t want to run in 2024...perhaps run later, but not in 2024.


62 posted on 03/23/2021 12:07:30 PM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: BobL

It’s the opposite. She wants to run in 2024, thinks her gender/looks will garner the benefit of the doubt from voters and does not want to be a target of left this early. Much easier to punt and not have a big fight while waiting for other events to overtake this issue. It’s RINO Chamber of Commerce 101. They all do it.


63 posted on 03/23/2021 12:10:53 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: irishjuggler

Your absolutist polemic against Noem differs substantially from the opinions of those who listened to her reasonable explanation on Tucker’s show, posted above.


64 posted on 03/23/2021 12:13:52 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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To: lodi90

Interesting theory...keep the spotlight off of herself for as long as possible, and then hope we all forget this flub.


65 posted on 03/23/2021 12:14:12 PM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: BobL

You’re not discussing the issue of the NCAA impact on her state.

She did but you’re not. That’s ok but she asked for a revision.


66 posted on 03/23/2021 12:15:36 PM PDT by romanesq (TRUSTY THE PLAN! ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! 👹)
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To: Albion Wilde

Your absolutist polemic against Noem differs substantially from the opinions of those who listened to her reasonable explanation on Tucker’s show, posted above.


The ACLU, woke Amazon and the LGBYTQ crowd agree. Ask yourself why you are standing with them on this issue.


67 posted on 03/23/2021 12:19:08 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: romanesq

“You’re not discussing the issue of the NCAA impact on her state. She did but you’re not. That’s ok but she asked for a revision.”

Not much to discuss, the simple question is whether the NCAA should be SETTING POLICY in SD, or the voters (who strongly supported this measure). She chose the NCAA. Her base will remember this decision.


68 posted on 03/23/2021 12:20:42 PM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: SubMareener

I listened to her last night. I believe she was actually talking.....
She has been consulting with lawyers and professors 🙄
The NCAA seems to terrify her....instead of telling them to bring it on! She whimpered 😖
Not sure who got to her, but she definitely is cowering in fear of whatever the threat was. Pity


69 posted on 03/23/2021 12:21:06 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: BobL

This episode confirms Noem is a Nikki Haley type standard issue RINO. Disappointing after her 2020 campaign season rise. Clearly, she won’t be Trump’s VP if he runs in 2024.


70 posted on 03/23/2021 12:21:48 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

“The ACLU, woke Amazon and the LGBYTQ crowd agree. Ask yourself why you are standing with them on this issue.”

Thanks, didn’t know she was also answering to the ACLU. Not sure how that will sell to the base either.


71 posted on 03/23/2021 12:22:28 PM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: Bratch

They were to some extent, talking past each other. She finally explained what she was talking about with the legal challenges at the end of the interview. It sounded not so much like she was blowing smoke, as much as she needed a longer time, and still had to address shifting points.


72 posted on 03/23/2021 12:27:38 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Albion Wilde

Disagree. Her “reasonable explanation” is that she’s afraid of retaliation from the NCAA and Amazon.com, so she’s caving. Yes, I know, “sending it back for revisions that will pass legal scrutiny.” Got it. If you believe that’s actually going to happen and she’s going to sign a revised bill in the near future, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Don’t kid yourself. This is kick the can down the road and hope it doesn’t roll back.


73 posted on 03/23/2021 12:28:08 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: BobL

“Not much to discuss, the simple question is whether the NCAA should be SETTING POLICY in SD, or the voters (who strongly supported this measure). She chose the NCAA. Her base will remember this decision.”

Odd way of inverting the problem. She’s trying to protect her state from discrimination by the NCAA.

The revisions she’s doing will handle it.


74 posted on 03/23/2021 12:29:23 PM PDT by romanesq (TRUSTY THE PLAN! ChiCom Joe is the Plan? Que magnificent! 👹)
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To: irishjuggler

“If you believe that’s actually going to happen and she’s going to sign a revised bill in the near future, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.”

Oh, she certainly WILL sign a revised bill - it’s just that her Special Interest masters will only allow it if has no teeth, as they prefer to not have to fight it in the courts.


75 posted on 03/23/2021 12:30:32 PM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: Jrabbit

Right, you heard her respond to Tucker’s calling her names, but you do not appear to have read her actual letter to the legislature. Pick your battles. The Enemy is trying to stampede her into bad legislation.

From her letter:

For example, Section 2 of House Bill 1217 requires a student athlete to verify, each year, that the student “is not taking and has not taken, during the preceding twelve months, any performance enhancing drugs, including anabolic steroids.”

Presumably, this requirement was included to address a student taking these drugs as a part of a gender transition, but House Bill 1217 is not limited in this way. Rather, if a male student athlete failed to make the football team, and later learned that another student on the team was taking steroids without disclosing it, the student who didn’t make the team would be entitled to sue both the school and the steroid-using student for damages.

In addition, Section 2 creates an unworkable administrative burden on schools, who under its terms must collect verification forms from every student athlete, every year, as to age, biological sex, and use of performance-enhancing drugs; and furthermore must monitor these disclosures throughout the year so that if “reasonable cause” is found of a false or misleading form, the school can take action to avoid civil liability.

You can read her whole letter here.

https://www.kxnet.com/news/national-news/south-dakota-gov-doesnt-sign-hb-1217-into-law-sends-the-fairness-in-womens-sports-bill-back-to-lawmakers/


76 posted on 03/23/2021 12:32:59 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: romanesq

“She’s trying to protect her state from discrimination by the NCAA.”

LOL! That’s a good one! What if the NCAA DEMANDS that she double the sales tax, or threaten to leave? How about a live-birth protection bill they don’t like? Maybe they object to the lack of solar panels in her state?

Where does it end, giving into blackmail?


77 posted on 03/23/2021 12:33:53 PM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: irishjuggler
Remember that Mike Pence caved on legislation involving so-called gay rights when the Chamber of Commerce, and specifically Angie Hicks of Angie's List, offered objections. That should have been a red flag against his inclusion in the Republican ticket in 2016.

History does not repeat itself, but it rhymes.

78 posted on 03/23/2021 12:35:08 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: G Larry

Zactly

People are not hearing why it was a failure and doomed for a veto

I’m with Kristy 2024


79 posted on 03/23/2021 12:35:53 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Heartlander

“Presumably, this requirement was included to address a student taking these drugs as a part of a gender transition, but House Bill 1217 is not limited in this way. Rather, if a male student athlete failed to make the football team, and later learned that another student on the team was taking steroids without disclosing it, the student who didn’t make the team would be entitled to sue both the school and the steroid-using student for damages.”

“In addition, Section 2 creates an unworkable administrative burden on schools, who under its terms must collect verification forms from every student athlete, every year, as to age, biological sex, and use of performance-enhancing drugs; and furthermore must monitor these disclosures throughout the year so that if “reasonable cause” is found of a false or misleading form, the school can take action to avoid civil liability.”


If this is correct, the concerns seems reasonable, and the changes do not appear to disrupt the purpose of the bill.


80 posted on 03/23/2021 12:35:59 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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