Posted on 03/21/2021 7:09:38 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
The victim(Santiago) was of course, a person of color. Defendants were a queer-like, just as Hollywood would have it. Then there's the ugly old white guy(Nicholson)going up against the cocky young Ricky Nelson-looking, brash defense lawyer(Cruise). Throw in the black authority figure(judge) along with a strong female(Demi Moore) standing up to the neanderthal men and there you have it. What could go wrong? Don't forget the sexual tension between the 2-they didn't finish. .
Nicholson is the best actor of his generation. Cruise i must admit is very good.
Jack Nicholson is a far lefty who adored Fidel Castro.
It might as well had been directed by Sergei Eisenstein.
“With regard to movies, I don’t take them all too seriously, nor do I apply a political litmus test to them. They can be a nice distraction from everyday life.”
Agreed.
One of the subplots of the movie was that Jessup was about to be appointed to a senior military role in Washington. He was already a “politician” at that point, and he couldn’t have his appointment jeopardized by an incident that would reflect poorly on him.
This will cheer you up. Didn’t appear to be written as a ‘hit piece.’
“Screenwriter Aaron Sorkin got the inspiration to write the source play, a courtroom drama called ‘A Few Good Men,’ from a phone conversation with his sister Deborah, who had graduated from Boston University Law School and signed up for a three-year stint with the U.S. Navy Judge Advocate General’s Corps.”
The Meathead and Aaron Sorkin, who then went on to create the Democratic Party fantasy West Wing.
That would probably be about as accurate as that movie. Their league had been integrated for a few years, all of the white players had longer hair, all of the antagonists were fictional characters (Ray didn’t exist, nor did the racist coach who handed Denzel Washington a banana), Bertier played in the state championship game, they had no close games, Coach Boone lost his job a few years later for abusing his players.
One of my relatives was in that team. We wore out a VHS tape rewinding it over and over.
He said Tom Cruise was a nice guy and very personable. Demi Moore was a b*tch.
You have to remember that this was coming out of the 80’s where “hateful, Reagan with his evil tweets” (to use the year zero vernacular) had almost brought us to the brink of WW3 nuclear holocaust (see The Day After)...
oh wait that didn’t happen.. Russia’s communism collapsed
You have to remember that now that there was no threat on the horizon (for some unknown reason) and we had world peace - that hard edged and large militaries were now in the past and we should soften them up and make them more open and humane. (militaries... humane...)
This was also produced during Bush I’s term and before Clinton took office.
And don’t forget that this was directed by THE Rob Reiner.
That said - I don’t see this as a full on hit piece on the Marines. Sorkin writes 2 characters (Kendrick and Jessie) in the Marines authentic voice and defense and Reiner lets those opinions be heard (while stacking the deck). If anything it’s a hit piece on lawyers - Kaffee by any definition is a corrupt screw up who negotiates punishments based on what he can get away with rather than actually argue for his client. Galloway is happy to lie and cheat to win the case against the Patriarchy (early SJW/BLM member there).
Virtue signaling and Perry Mason histrionics aside - it rehashes the age-old questions of hazing and Patton slapping a few of his soldiers who refused to fight.
I agree.....I thought it a very well made movie....
...Nicholson imo was a ‘William Bligh’ type.....but didn’t reflect on the whole Corp
The two defendants were exemplary in their conduct ( with one exception, one very big exception).....
...but their respect for protocol was evident!
Cruise played his part well.....and I consider this one of Moore’s better performances......as she didn’t go for the slut appeal......she did well.
My husband and I enjoyed the movie
Produced and directed by Meathead— Rob Reiner (who would have been a NOBODY without his genuinely talented and funny father, Carl Reiner). Reiner (the title “a few good men” is intended to be a sarcasm and a sleight against the powerful history and reality that is the USMC. Who break down future marines first and then.. BUILD THEM into a formidable fighting force. The Marine Rifleman trained into every member of the force.
Reiner is a major a@@hole lib still. Recently put together a bullcrap group= “Committee to Investigate Russia” to carry water that the US is under attack by Russia (NOT CHINA, nooo never the actual Communists, not oligarchs, the Chi-Coms). A committee paneled by James Clapper, Max Boot, Evelyn Farkas (remember this idiot for Burisma- the big mouth who spilled the beans on what they were doing to Trump, with russia russia), Michael Hayden, Michael Morrell, Leon Panetta, and Clint Watts (all of them deep state LIB lying see eye ehhhhh- gives a clue the entire thing is a FRONT Leftist group put up and supported by the .... Chi-Coms! The Hollywood Chi-Coms the jew-”ish” non practicing jew,LEFTY RED libs depend on for funding and their agenda). Put simply by Michael Horowitz... Reiner is a putz, a fat putz and fraud. A jew-”ish” Michael Moore fraud.
The writer, who was not Reiner, inadvertently (out of thinking it was an “expose” of the horrible Marines... and thus “OK”)—produced one of the finest speeches on the purpose of the military and the pussies who want them on the guardposts standing post but HATE them for the real threat to enemies foreign (and DOMESTIC!) they represent. Palpable force majeur... that is feared and thus respected around the world. Send in the Marines for what they are TRAINED to do. Point of the spear. Air Sea and Land (and now Space as well).
Colonel Nathan Jessup (Jack Nicholson) to the pussies of the prosecution the leit motif of the entire film’s accusation to trash the image of the Marines with an even that would never happen in this way, ever:
“Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know — that Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
You don’t want the TRUTH because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me on that wall — you need me on that wall.
We use words like “honor,” “code,” “loyalty.” We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.
I would rather that you just said “Thank You” and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand the post. Either way, I don’t give a DAMN what you think you’re entitled to!”
And, don’t forget the Marine Base Command in this movie, was the Command at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay (NSGB) filmed NINE YEARS prior to the Islamofascist attack on the US on 9-11-2001 that preceded the creation of the detention military trial tribunal location function of the War on Terror (and frankly, the continuing war on our great Republic by enemies, foreign, and DOMESTIC. As in Chi-Coms, and JoeBamas embeds who all work on their payroll).
Semper Fidelis et Sic Semper Tyrannis.
Oops posted the speech not having seen your posting. My comments stand on it in any case.
Yes, Cruise’s character and the assistant Weinberg. Their behaviour in front of the very attractive military JAG officer played by Demi Moore (before she went butch and hollywood cast her as an impossible SEAL trainee- not possible to finish any of that training, which has not been compensated for politics, yet).
pretty boy, little man Cruise’s fag character, and the pudgy jew-”ish” Weinberg as his poodle. Vs. a professional Marine.
I like Demi Moore’s line when co-counsel asked her why she liked them (the Marines) so much - she said something along the line of: They stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you. Not on our watch.
What I didn’t like was Kiefer Sutherland’s role. One of the biggest jerks in the movie happens to be a “Christian” with a southern accent.
Great observations on this movie.
The problems I have with the plot... nowadays is that the Air Force zoomies controlling the log book at a base and the comings and goings in the time line-— way too simplified and... on paper.
This kind of surreptitious crapola has been going on ever since before 9-11-2001. IFF transponders and ID software switch on and off... flights “disappear” as needed for opsec, deception or to evade US policy and law- as the obamaumao,JoeBamaumaos and the Hare-a@@ apparatchiks did regularly to surveill illegally.
President Trump spied on, FISA courts fraud to do so, and now, the rest of the US (but never BLM or AntiFA- so who are they working for now, and sharing the surveill with. For we are under attack, for real by Chi-Coms. Assymmetric warfare, biowarfare and propaganda)
I enjoyed seeing Sutherland, Kevin Bacon, and especially Cuba Gooding as young actors before their careers took off.
The movie is a hit piece no doubt. Kept waiting for sex scenes but it didn’t happen. The message of the flick was too important for distractions.
I annoyed others in the theater when I burst out laughing at Nicholson playing with the steel balls. I guess I was the only one there who had seen The Caine Mutiny.
It was an Aaron Sorkin play. In the play, the character played by Demi Moore is a guy.
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