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Case Fatality Rate vs. Infection Fatality Rate In COVID-19: It Matters A Lot
The Methods Man ^ | 07/29/2020 | F. Perry Wilson

Posted on 03/14/2021 10:00:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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This article is 8 months old as I post this today, but the methodology presented here still applies.
1 posted on 03/14/2021 10:00:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

COVID didn’t crush the economy. Government did.


2 posted on 03/14/2021 10:05:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The CFR continued to decline from the 3.5% level on July 20, 2020 until January 20, 2021 when the CFR reached 1.66%.

Since January 20, 2021 the CFR has increased and as of yesterday the CFR was 1.82%.

It is my assumption that the number of covid cases were not scaring people enough, so the Biden administration immediately went to work on new methods to increase the number of covid deaths.


3 posted on 03/14/2021 10:08:12 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: SeekAndFind

The deaths from this ‘flu’ in Wisconsin have been 0.011% of confirmed cases.

Wisconsin: 635,000 cases and 7,180 deaths, or 0.011%.

In my County (Iowa), 2,000 cases, 11 deaths, or 0.005%. Five Thousandths of ONE percent!

WHY are we still all locked up? Why HAVE we been locked up for a YEAR, now?

Oh, that’s right! Socialist Democrats! *SPIT*

What a sham.


4 posted on 03/14/2021 10:18:06 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for the very good article.
It highlights one of the major problems with this pandemic, the lack of good information. Lacking that information, our health care professionals went worse case panicking our politicians and the public.

the really interesting reads will be the after action reports published in three/four years.


5 posted on 03/14/2021 10:18:11 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actual CV19 fatalities or “reported” CV19 fatalities. THAT makes a difference. But that will probably never see the light of day.


6 posted on 03/14/2021 10:25:29 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

What a bunch of useless crap. Even the CDC admits the numbers are BS, yet pearl-clutching morons eat this stuff up.


7 posted on 03/14/2021 10:26:28 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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Traffic deaths and natural causes are included in the Covid death numbers. A lot of people believe in the Easter Bunny and the tooth fairy too.


8 posted on 03/14/2021 10:29:16 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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It highlights one of the major problems with this pandemic, the lack of good information. Lacking that information, our health care professionals went worse case panicking our politicians and the public.

False information is used to make policy - which is not subsequently changed when correct information surfaces.

Meaning the policy was pre-planned and the false information was just a pretext to implement it.

9 posted on 03/14/2021 10:29:28 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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RE: Actual CV19 fatalities or “reported” CV19 fatalities.

I assume that the “reported” fatalities are larger than the Actual fatalities, but by how much? Anybody have a reasonable estimate?


10 posted on 03/14/2021 10:29:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That would take a lot of digging and research which I’m guessing ain’t gonna happen. Applecart upset.


11 posted on 03/14/2021 10:34:25 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: DugwayDuke

“..the really interesting reads will be the after action reports published in three/four years...”

The democrats will probably unleash 2 or 3 new pandemics during that time span.


12 posted on 03/14/2021 10:43:34 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Your math is wrong. You are not converting to percentage correctly. After dividing numerator by denominator, you have to move the decimal point to the right 2 places for it to be reported as percentage.


13 posted on 03/14/2021 10:51:58 AM PDT by bateau
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To: SeekAndFind
Case fatality rate is a snapshot in time that encompasses various factors. It can change from one day to the next but, more to the point I'm about to make, it can be changed, from one day to the next; for example:

Take a hospital that's operating at 50% of its operational capacity and then flood it with 100 acutely ill patients suffering from a highly contagious, potentially deadly and not well understood virus. That's a bad scenario. Let's say 25 of those people die. That's a 25% CFR.

Take that same hospital a week later when it's operating at 105% of its operational capacity. It's still more than filled with these acutely ill patients. Staff is getting sick and so everyone is having to carry extra water. Now hit that hospital with another wave of 100 patients suffering from this highly contagious, confirmed to be deadly and still not well understood virus.

Do you think the CFR will still be 25%? No way. You'll end up with a 50% CFR this time and by that time, the entire hospital will be on the verge of anarchy and collapse like we saw in NYC.

I mention this because this is why we stressed the need to "flatten the curve" early on, to prevent this kind of a scenario from developing. The logic seemed to be lost to many.

14 posted on 03/14/2021 11:01:43 AM PDT by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: SeekAndFind
Bookmarked, a good article and video.

It shows the problem in getting good information on new diseases. Getting reliable information in medicine takes time. The flue has been around for over 100 years old. Covid-19 is 15 to 18 months old. That is a huge difference. We simply do not have the information on Covid-19 like other diseases.

15 posted on 03/14/2021 11:21:45 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Cobra64
A lot of people believe in the Easter Bunny and the tooth fairy too.

Personally, I believe in the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy a lot more than anyone in government. Now that Santa Claus guy, he obviously works for the government - handing out all that free stuff.

16 posted on 03/14/2021 11:22:22 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

What would the fatality rate be if the CDC did not do everything it could to withhold treatment?
Patients weren’t even allowed a “right to try” HCQ. All treatments were denied until the patient was hospitalized and put on excessively aggressive ventilator therapy, which injured infected lung tissue.
What would the fatality rate be if doctors were simply allowed to prescribe medicines they deemed fit for their patients? What would it be if the CDC didn’t recommend such aggressive respiratory therapy.
And then - what if 5 governors didn’t force Covid-19 patients into nursing homes. Early in the planned-demic, nursing home deaths accounted for 40% of fatalities?

What if the CDC didn’t require deaths to be counted as Covid-19 based on stupid, statistic distorting rules? If you died within 60 days of having a positive Covid test then it counts as a Covid death! Keep in mind the inventor of the Covid-19 test they use (PCR) said it was NOT appropriate for use for the planned-demic because it would result in MANY false positives.

So people with false postives, and people with actual positive covid test die a month later in a car accident and it’s a Covid death. At that press conference, the example was a ‘motor cycle accident’ and the speaker said, yes it would be counted as covid but advised the public to remember that such accidents would be statistically low and have little effect on overall fatality rates.

Coroners and physicians reported struggling with the instructions that when their patients died with multiple co-morbidities, they were to record the death as Covid. So someone dying of cancer with a positive Covid test, even without symptoms, would be recorded as Covid. The example I watched in a video was a doctor frustrated with ‘new rules’ for Covid which meant his patient with failing health, COPD, Diabetes, Kidney failure etc. would ‘have’ to be recorded as Covid death.

The planned-demic is all lies. All of it.


17 posted on 03/14/2021 11:43:20 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: bateau

Thanks, Perfesser! ;)


18 posted on 03/14/2021 12:24:36 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: SeekAndFind

The only metrics that matter are - # hospitalizations and # morbidities. The rest are coffee table fodder.


19 posted on 03/14/2021 12:33:59 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: ransomnote

Amen and BTTT.

Hubby and I were just talking about a lot of your points made, this morning.

It’s been a year since friends of ours contracted China Flu.

They’re young, healthy and fought it off, with barely any down time. They both receovered, completely, and TO THIS DAY are still cranking out antibodies.

Now....imagine if there had been NO lockdowns and people were told what precautions to take, to prevent....AND....given early access to KNOWN, safe preventatives, early on safe and EFFECTIVE TREATMENTS, should they HAVE contracted this bioweapon virus.

Meanwhile, people could’ve gone about their day to day business, as usual, or as THEY chose.....herd immunity would’ve been reached LONG ago, deaths of our elderly and/or those with comorbidities PREVENTED, for the most part....and...they wouldn’t have had anything to blame on Trump, except more winning.


20 posted on 03/14/2021 12:44:13 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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