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Justice Department seeks to build large conspiracy case against Oath Keepers for Capitol riot (The feds are going after Oath Keepers!)
Seattle Times ^ | March 11 | By Aaron C. Davis, Devlin Barrett, Spencer S. Hsu and Tom Jackman

Posted on 03/13/2021 1:25:58 AM PST by RandFan

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department and FBI are gathering evidence to try to build a large conspiracy indictment against members of the Oath Keepers for their roles in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, according to people familiar with the matter, but the group’s sometimes fractious and fantasy-laden internal workings may complicate efforts to bring such a case.

In the wake of the short-lived insurrection, the Oath Keepers is the most high-profile, self-styled militia group in the country. While members use the jargon and trappings of a paramilitary organization, in daily practice they are often more akin to a collection of local chapters with a similar, conspiracy theory-fueled ideology about what they view as the inevitable collapse of the U.S. government as it becomes more tyrannical.

“This was not a well-trained army or a disciplined military unit, this was a loose structure,” said Karl Schmae, who dealt with Oath Keepers when he was an FBI negotiator responding to the 2016 occupation of a wildlife refuge building in eastern Oregon.

The Oath Keepers group is a major target of the sprawling FBI investigation into the riot at the U.S. Capitol, along with another militant group, the Proud Boys, according to the people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. How aggressively the Justice Department pursues such extremists will be a major test not only of the Biden administration’s pledge to combat domestic terrorism, but the law and the courts.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: capitolriot; doj; oathkeepers
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1 posted on 03/13/2021 1:25:58 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan
I think rumors of FBI hunting down an Oath Keepers conspiracy is likely fear-porn. The Deep Staters and MSM are afraid of Oath Keepers so they are claiming the hunt is on to bring in some Oath Keeper scalps. Meanwhile, a Judge just let one go citing no evidence. The MSM and other Deep Staters are runnin' skeerd. They just saw one freed so they are spreading rumors that the rest are in a conspiracy about to be busted.

 


2 posted on 03/13/2021 1:30:31 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: RandFan

“according to the people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. “

i.e. Deep State Propaganda


3 posted on 03/13/2021 1:31:44 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: RandFan

,It is the FBI who should be prosecuted for RICO violations.


4 posted on 03/13/2021 1:34:55 AM PST by exnavy
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To: RandFan

The insurrection was not short lived.

It’s still going on and they are now in the process of maligning and purging any resistance to themselves.


5 posted on 03/13/2021 1:36:09 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ransomnote

The judge just let him out on bail. He didn’t drop the charges.


6 posted on 03/13/2021 1:43:44 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: RandFan

“This was not a well-trained army or a disciplined military unit, this was a loose structure,”

...it’s just an idea
A myth


7 posted on 03/13/2021 1:46:46 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: RandFan

Isn’t Oath Keepers just “an idea,” like pantifa?


8 posted on 03/13/2021 2:27:22 AM PST by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: RandFan

There was NO riot !!!


9 posted on 03/13/2021 3:26:24 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: RandFan
Writing in S.W.A.T. Magazine in 2008, Rhodes asserts, "'It' (a full-blown totalitarian police state) cannot happen here if the majority of police and soldiers obey their oaths to defend the Constitution and refuse to enforce the unconstitutional edicts of the 'Leader'."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_Keepers


Ya ... we talk a good anonymous game (behind a keyboard) ... but there are still some that have the character to give all ..... again.

10 posted on 03/13/2021 3:40:57 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: RandFan

Gelded FBI frat cops in incestuous bed with their gelding mother of media and academia.

She wants more pretty boys to party with, so they boot Trump and Oath Keeper dad out, and provide her instead with more brothers, even shaking hands with islamists and Chinese because she wants these brothers too.

What good little chumps they are. Until the totemic meal of union of islam-Russia-China must be consumed in the manner of cutting her head off after they shoot them gelded frat boys in the back.


12 posted on 03/13/2021 4:00:39 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Liz

I remember when Comey was offended Trump criticized the FBi at large, which he never did. But fine for them to attack the nuts and bolts of the military.


13 posted on 03/13/2021 4:02:34 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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Oath Keepers has a website and chat for its members, but other than that, there really is not any centralized leadership that is meaningful. Some local “chapters” may offer more, but there are seldom any organized meetings or gatherings. Most are indeed keyboard warriors.

In so far as the Jan 6th “riots”, there was no “official” organized or sanctioned OK involvement. To the contrary, OK sent an email to members strongly advising them to stay out of DC.


14 posted on 03/13/2021 4:04:51 AM PST by OCMike
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To: RandFan

Then they’ll go after Antifa and BLM /s


15 posted on 03/13/2021 4:07:23 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it.........)
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To: RandFan

FBI Sends in Armored Vehicle with Turret, 2 Vans, 6 FBI Vehicles, 3 Local Police Vehicles to Arrest Young Father Who Attended Jan. 6 Rally – UNBELIEVABLE INTERVIEW! – Please Help…

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/shock-report-fbi-sends-military-vehicle-turret-2-vans-6-fbi-vehicles-3-local-police-vehicles-arrest-young-father-attended-jan-6-rally-unbelievable-interview/


16 posted on 03/13/2021 4:09:02 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Biden’s DOD Uses Witch-hunt for Extremists to Set the Stage for a Purge of Conservatives from the Military
Red State ^ | 02/05/2021 | Streiff / FR Posted by SeekAndFind

You could see this coming like you can see a thunderhead out on the Great Plains. The order came from a meeting Biden’s DOD Secy Austin held with @thejointstaff @USNavy @usairforce @USArmy @USMC.....

The allegation, provided without a shred of empirical evidence that the US military is overrun by hate groups and extremists, has been made for weeks. —snip—

But the degree to which this narrative foretold future events became evident when the FBI was permitted to perform background checks, including reviews of social media, of the 20,000 or so National Guardsmen called up to defend Joe Biden’s Washington, DC, against some imagined threat (more Security Theater, like the predicted attacks on state capitols). See U.S. Defense Officials Fear Insider Attack From National Guard Service Members Ahead of Inauguration.

This was an unconscionable affront to the US military. The assertion that National Guardsmen posed an insider threat to Joe Biden should have been met with guffaws and a refusal of any governor to go along with it.

General has gone on record defending their troops against Cohen’s calumny. No one in even the out-going Trump Defense leadership had anything to say. Only one governor has defended their own Guardsmen. Instead, we saw the FBI running checks on National Guardsmen with the objective of finding something, anything to justify the panic.

This is just part of the Antonio-Gramsci-esque Long March Through the Institutions that has finally conquered the US military.

Secretary of Defense Austin has already demonstrated that he has a total disregard for the safety of the military personnel and is completely subservient to Critical Race Theory and whatever other victim theology that is being peddled, see Opinion: Defense Secretary Austin Plays Politics Right out of the Gate. What does this mean? From the New York Times.

All military personnel, including those in the National Guard, undergo extensive background investigations and physical examinations including assessments of tattoos. Troops are continuously monitored for indications that they are involved in extremist activity and receive training to identify others around them who could be “insider threats.”
But critics say the military’s leadership has often failed to hold violators accountable consistently.

“Current regulations have penalties that are largely left up to commanders, often at the unit level,” Heidi Beirich, a co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, told a House hearing last February. “There appears to be no process to track people expelled for ties to white supremacists’ groups.”

At the same time, there are many internal cultural issues within the military — from the recruitment process to training and beyond — that may take years to unravel.

The recently approved National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal 2021, which sets annual Pentagon policy and spending priorities, contained measures meant to help the department address the issue, including a new position in the Defense Department inspector general’s office: a deputy inspector general for diversity and inclusion and supremacist, extremism and criminal gang activity. Congress also charged the inspector general with establishing a “mechanism to track and report” extremist or gang activity in the military.

The fact that the same morons who have decided that the OK sign is a white supremacist sign will be deciding what tattoos mean should give no one any comfort. That tracking military veterans to gauge their political reliability is casually bandied about is terrifying. A political commissar dedicated to rooting out troops with the wrong politics is not something native to North America.

Let’s not fool ourselves that they will be looking for actual gang members or KKK or BLM…oops, I didn’t say that…members in the ranks. They will be intrusively monitoring social media to see what you say and which Facebook posts you share.

If you have a Rush 24/7 membership or a RedState VIP member or fly the Gadsden flag (see Leftwing Activist Journalists Claim the Gadsden Flag Is a Sign of Insurrection and Hate), your days in uniform are probably numbered. In 2012, the Obama Pentagon discharged a Marine reservist who said unflattering things about Obama while not on active duty.

In past years, no one in the Pentagon would have dreamed of monitoring a private Facebook site to review comments made by people who may never again serve on active duty (such as Individual reservists with no unit affiliation) to try to root out disrespect to The Lightbringer. They aren’t going to touch people who are Antifa sympathizers or participants in BLM riots. They are going after one demographic and one political persuasion.

As I noted in Steve Cohen Tries to Walk Back Smear That National Guardsmen Might Kill Biden but the Official Reaction Reveals a Larger Problem:

This all points to a deep corruption in the senior officer corps and hints at a deep-seated contempt for the rank-and-file Guardsmen by their own leadership. I can’t imagine something similar not existing in the Regular Army.

In past years, no one in the Pentagon would have dreamed of monitoring a private Facebook site to review comments made by people who may never again serve on active duty (such as Individual reservists with no unit affiliation) to try to root out disrespect to The Lightbringer. They aren’t going to touch people who are Antifa sympathizers or participants in BLM riots. They are going after one demographic and one political persuasion.


17 posted on 03/13/2021 4:09:58 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: knarf

It’s interesting that in NONE of these articles do they define what “oath keeper” refers to.


18 posted on 03/13/2021 4:16:16 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
THAT is a major part of how they dumb America down.

Just throw a word out there, never define it, and lay out your propaganda.

19 posted on 03/13/2021 4:19:46 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: exnavy

They remind me of when my ex wife was cheating and was doing all she could to quiet me and the kids up about it, using threats what not.

They are doing something illegal, sleeping with Iranians, islamists and Chinese, so they go on the offense.


20 posted on 03/13/2021 4:34:21 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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