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Is Prince Harry’s son Archie eligible to be US president? (Shameless vanity)
3/9/21 | GQuagmire

Posted on 03/09/2021 7:25:08 AM PST by GQuagmire

Had an interesting discussion on a group chat with my family last night. My youngest daughter who is liberal and believes the mainstream media (she’ll come around eventually) was up in arms about the mean treatment of little Archie by the royal family. Skin color, lack of title, no security etc. I did a little research on his lack of title and I found out about the George V convention. Long story short there’s a internet chat, discussion about Archie becoming President one while his cousin will be king at the same time.


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To: sodpoodle

The first election when he would be old enough to run will be 2056, so I’m not going to worry about it. The chances that I will be alive in 2056 are about one in a million. At any rate, if Archie is seen as a credible candidate in 2056 the state of the US will be far worse than any of us can imagine.


81 posted on 03/09/2021 11:30:40 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Diego1618

Thank you for making my point. When Congress is following it’s enumerated powers, it is NOT changing the Constitution. Congress is not attempting to remove the NBC requirement. THAT would require a change. Congress is following the Constitution when it expresses the will of Congress (via law) and exercising its power / authority to establish the rules of naturalization i.e. who is and who is not a natural born citizen.


82 posted on 03/09/2021 11:32:50 AM PST by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: GQuagmire
The lack of title rule was made by a British King over a hundred years ago and had nothing whatsoever to do with race. It was so that not every offspring of a member of the line of succession would be named a royal, which would cost the Crown for protection agents and a salary from the Sovereign. The cut-off is the 6th in line to the throne. In Archie's case, he is number 7, assuming his dad Harry does retain his title and if William has no more children. So he was not given a title at birth; HOWEVER, when Charles takes the throne, Archie would move up to 6th and would then have a title.

This is a clear illustration of the ignorance that Meghan displays, honing a grievance based on her personal resentment that "Archie was treated differently than the other grandchildren", and assuming it was racial, when it was not at all. She just can't get over that her prince just isn't all that high in the line of succession. She actually thought she and Harry could compete with William and Kate for the top spot, based on celebrity and popularity in the media.

You Are So Dumb. You Are Really Dumb. For Real.

83 posted on 03/09/2021 11:46:11 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: GQuagmire
That’s what I thought but I think the door was kicked open when Congress ok’ed McCain when he ran in 2008.

But weren't McCain's parents both Americans, and his father serving the U.S. military in Panama? As opposed to Obie, whose father was British Kenyan, and his place of birth in dispute.

84 posted on 03/09/2021 11:48:06 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: Leaning Right
It’s possible that some day he could be the President of the United States AND the King of England.

Nope. Our law prohibits anyone with a royal title holding office in the U.S.

85 posted on 03/09/2021 11:49:35 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
In truth he was born in Panama, not the Canal Zone and is not a natural born citizen.

So you're saying that all children born to U.S. citizens serving the military abroad are not U.S. citizens? That's a lot of exclusion there.

86 posted on 03/09/2021 11:54:59 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: bgill
No. McCain wasn’t born on the US military base.

McCain's birth certificate was signed by Captain W. L. Irvine. He was director of the medical facility at the submarine base hospital in Coco Solo, Panama Canal Zone.

87 posted on 03/09/2021 11:58:42 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Robert357
He is more “American” than Obama.

How do you figure that? They both have American mothers and British fathers, and Obama has lived here continuously for more than the required past 14 years.

88 posted on 03/09/2021 12:01:54 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: Albion Wilde

US citizen, yes, natural born citizen eligible to be President, no.

They are not the same as made clear by the plain language of Art.II sec. 1


89 posted on 03/09/2021 12:06:10 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Verginius Rufus
The chances that I will be alive in 2056 are about one in a million. At any rate, if Archie is seen as a credible candidate in 2056 the state of the US will be far worse than any of us can imagine.

Unless there's a pile of money in it for his mother, she will ruin his chances with some pitiful story of how he victimized her, didn't call home, loved his father more than her, married someone she didn't like, etc. etc.

90 posted on 03/09/2021 12:06:58 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: Albion Wilde

The Senate thought it was enough of a question to pass a resolution declaring McCain a natural born citizen because he had TWO citizen parents.

A Senate resolution cannot change the Constitution, it was worthless except as cover for Obama.

NEITHER candidate R or D was eligible in 2008, that’s why I voted for Bob Barr, he was the only eligible candidate on my ballot.


91 posted on 03/09/2021 12:10:33 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: pfflier

McCain never released his birth certificate, so you could not know who signed it.


92 posted on 03/09/2021 12:11:29 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: sodpoodle

Neither of VP Harris’s parents were US citizens.


93 posted on 03/09/2021 1:53:52 PM PST by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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To: Albion Wilde

Being raised by Meghan and Harry, Archie may be so messed up and out of touch with ordinary people that he would not be able to get many votes...and by then having a smidgen of African ancestry won’t be a big deal for a Presidential candidate.


94 posted on 03/09/2021 2:16:30 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: GQuagmire
Is Prince Harry’s son Archie eligible to be US president?

No he is not. In 1787 women could not pass on citizenship, and the meaning of "natural born citizen" cannot be changed by subsequent congressional legislation giving women the right to pass on citizenship.

By the standards of 1787, he is not a US citizen, and that's even overlooking the "ambassador" type status of his father, which would also preclude him from having US citizenship.

95 posted on 03/09/2021 3:09:01 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: babble-on
“Because Archie was born to a U.S. citizen, he is considered a “natural born citizen” and could run for the country’s highest office — but he’d need to jump through some hoops. Archie would have to go through a naturalization proceeding and need special permission from Congress.” PEOPLE Magazine, February 2021

I guess the idea of a natural born citizen having to go through a "naturalization" process is not enough cognitive dissonance for them to see what is wrong with the idea.

96 posted on 03/09/2021 3:10:54 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: taxcontrol
Under current interpretation of US law, if he is born on US soil, he is a natural born citizen.

He is a citizen by virtue of the 14th amendment which *GRANTS* him citizenship. Natural born citizens do not require the 14th amendment to make them citizens, so therefore a 14th amendment citizen cannot be a natural citizen.

If he is born on non-US soil to at least 1 US citizen at the time of his birth, he is a natural born citizen.

Absolutely incorrect. The Supreme court itself said in Wong Kim Ark that if a child is born outside of the United States, the child can only become a citizen through a naturalization process instituted through congress.

97 posted on 03/09/2021 3:17:49 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: GQuagmire
Is Prince Harry’s son Archie eligible to be US president?

Yes, until someone with the authority to tell him he's not eligible tells him he's not eligible.

He's no less eligible than Ted Cruz (born in Canada to an American mother and Cuban father). Of course, Archie would have no renounce any royal titles. A minor formality.

The problem with Natural Born Citizenship as defined in the Constitution is that there seems to be no enforcement mechanism other than the will of the voters and if Archie decides to run for president and actually wins the election, who's going to stop him from assuming office?

98 posted on 03/09/2021 3:20:51 PM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: Gena Bukin

Hillary.......its her turn.


99 posted on 03/09/2021 3:22:24 PM PST by crosdaddy
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To: \/\/ayne
Just what we need, another Communist President.

How do you know Archie wouldn't grow into a stalwart conservative?

100 posted on 03/09/2021 3:24:21 PM PST by Gena Bukin
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