Posted on 02/28/2021 5:16:20 AM PST by RandFan
Where does the conspiracy theory come from?
The belief that Trump will be sworn in on March 4 is rooted in theories promoted by the obscure sovereign citizen movement.
The sovereign citizen movement is a highly-fragmented grouping of Americans who believe taxes, US currency, and even the US government to be illegitimate.
A minority of them believe that laws do not apply to them at all, resulting in the FBI designating some members as "domestic terrorists" and "anti-government extremists."
A central tenet of the movement is that the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, converted "sovereign citizens" into "federal citizens."
This belief also goes so far as to dismiss the validity of any presidency after 1868, making Ulysses S. Grant the last valid president.
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Why March 4?
Before the 20th Amendment in 1933, all presidents were sworn in on March 4.
It was introduced to shorten the "lame duck" period between elections and the start of new administrations.
Given that followers of the sovereign citizen movement reject all constitutional amendments passed after the 14th amendment, they do not view this date change as legitimate.
QAnon followers, who failed to see Trump inaugurated in January, have recycled the argument and reinvented the next legitimate inauguration date.
They say that on March 4, 2021, Trump will succeed the last legitimate president, Grant, to become the 19th president
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You think QAnon worked in Trump’s best interests? Don’t make me laugh. What about, “Trust the plan, Trust Sessions!”
Anyone who thinks QAnon helped Trump is delusional, and anyone who believes anything QAnon said is delusional.
I never followed this Q crap to begin with.
This March 4th nonsense holds about as much water as a sieve. I’ve conversed with a few on the net that think March 4th is the Gospel. It’s a shame how so many can be deceived so easily by a nothing burger.
Thank you for your thoughts on the matter.
Can you tell us then what is your dedicated and consistent investigative research into Election Fraud, MSM lies, signing up as a PC for a county? Presenting a Plan B should Plan A which is the hope that the GOPe and Dem and Swamp are going to allow the GOP to be anything more than the carbon copy of their last 50 years?
We hope you have been busy, and hope you can take the time to fill us in on your efforts seeing this may be why you have only one effort showing thus far, QANON is bad, blame them, well, please enlighten us, as we do honestly desire to have you show us what you believe in and what you have done to assist Our President DJT in the last 5 years.
Blessings.
Taking bets on after March 4th there WILL BE A NEW DATE.........!!
Then, after the New Date comes and goes when Trump is suppose to reclaim his Oval Office, there will be a new-new date set......
fact that the Constitution requires the president to address the nation during January of February (State of the Union) but only Trump is actually doing that (today, Feb 28).>>> I’m not directing these comments at you as i assume you are quoting someone from qanaon. actually the constitution says this. Any real sovereign citizen would know this. I believe early on it was in the form of a letter.
He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.
You must be new to this site, if you think that I’m the only one on FR to point out that QAnon was a fraud and his followers were deluded. Go back through all the ridiculous Q threads over the past four years and you’ll see I wasn’t the only one.
As for what I’ve done to help President Trump? Well, I voted, and I gave substantial campaign contributions. What have YOU done? Navel-gazed and counted Q’s angels dancing on the head of a pin?
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Trump is still being beat over the head because of jerks like you! Why this insanity is allowed on FR is pathetic. You are not some intellectual genius who is spreading “truth”......you are nothing but a tool of the left who the media has used to hurt Trump. 🤬
Even if their assertions were true, it does not matter as long as the Federal government controls the military and the Federal law enforcement agencies. There is no reason to believe that the U.S. Armed Forces are under the control of the "patriots", given the leftist slant of the Pentagon. If the Left has taken control of the FBI, IRS, DOJ, etc., is there any reason to believe that they have not done the same with the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force? The Left certainly learned their lesson when Franco in the 1930s and Pinochet in the 1970s spoiled their plans for the Communization of Spain and Chile, respectively.
So the fact that Trump is giving a speech today (also Feb 28) while Biden has done no such thing to date is actually quite intriguing.
Because it paints conservatives and the right as loons. Why wouldn’t they?
Q is just the fantastical Monster under the Bed meant to scare the Leftists who believe Trump Supporters are the biggest problem in the World.
I have other things to do here, though I do reply to this.
The Feckless Uniparty and Global swamp beat Our President over the head, and that would include every republican vote for 50 years that was a “hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils” and then believed that the UNiparty when they said “dont worry we will fix it next time”
That would be the floor mat WE are now all standing on, so please should you desire to throw stones, make sure you have a history of never voting for a Republican on the Ballot, then you could be classed as someone who had the right to throw that stone.
And yes, My great grandfather and my DH great grandfather through to this present day have fallen for the “Trust the GOP, we will make it better”
Sound familiar?
Blessings.
Q is different from QAnon.
QAnon are the people reading and investigating anything related. and yes, they make stuff up.
Q is a group of unknown people at ‘war’ with the deep state.
and it looks like they lost.
that’s not good for America
there are no ‘followers’ of QAnon.
‘followers’ of Q are called QAnon... but not all QAnons are the same.
some are the whacky ufo people which has nothing to do with Q
Wonderfully succinct and accurate.
“And if Q is simply a LARP, why is the left and its friends so energized to discredit Q?”
The Left is not energized to discredit Q. They don’t need to - Q is already 100% discredited. The Left knows that only a tiny but loud fringe group of conspiracy theorists believe in Q.
What the Left (and RINOs) are really doing is using Q to discredit Trump’s entire America First movement, by associating Q with President Trump as much as possible.
If they can convince everyone that Trump supporters are Q followers, they can portray President Trump and his supporters as a nut jobs as well.
This is why Tump supporters should distance themselves from Q whenever possible.
This is very serious folks.
Lately, whenever I mention I am a big supporter of President Trump, the first thing people ask is whether I follow Q. That is the narrative the fake news is pushing now - that if you are a Trump supporter, then you must also be a nut job Q conspiracy theorist.
I quickly say “Hell no!” and throw Q as far under the bus as I possibly can.
You may be right, but that happened long before Q posted.
The Q following is not fringe. Just look at the presence around the world. Now you may consider it discredited, but perhaps you didn't understand what and why Q wrote.
Given the hundreds or thousands of main street media articles to discredit Q, think it is clear that they are very energized to discredit Q - including passing a bill in Congress to condemn Q.
What the Left (and RINOs) are really doing is using Q to discredit Trump’s entire America First movement, by associating Q with President Trump as much as possible
Well, they use everything that way - especially the narratives they make up.
This is why Tump supporters should distance themselves from Q whenever possible.
I doubt the majority of people know anything more about Q than the caricature the liberal media portrayed. So I don't give a rip about what the libs think about Q or the Second Amendment, or Abortion, etc. They will think it and condemn us no matter what.
Or you are delusional and have a fevered imagination. If so, you posted just your fevered speculations.
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