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US has 'lowest flu season' on record during COVID pandemic: Whether it was social distancing or more people getting their shots, the flu season has virtually disappeared at a time when it normally hits its peak
K5 News ^ | 02/25/2021 | MIKE STOBBE AP Medical Writer

Posted on 02/25/2021 8:11:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Edited on 02/25/2021 8:48:36 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

February is usually the peak of flu season, with doctors' offices and hospitals packed with suffering patients. But not this year. Flu has virtually disappeared from the U.S., with reports coming in at far lower levels than anything seen in decades.


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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid19; flu; pandemic
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To: Mr. K

RE: So, no more deaths from heart attacks or cancer or motorcycle accidents if they have COVID... gotcha

I’m not saying that.

Motorcycle accidents aside, I am wondering if COVID did not act as an ACCELERANT to the person’s death from either cancer, diabetes or heart disease.

Would that person who had heart disease or cancer not have lived longer and eventually die ( say a few years later ) if he/she did not have Covid?

Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying that a person with morbidities will not eventually die of these morbidities, but a few more years of living is important to a person’s family. Covid could simply have accelerated that time of death.


81 posted on 02/25/2021 10:45:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The Southern Hemisphere’s latest flu season also experienced the same lack of flu cases we are experiencing.
Their season is mostly the opposite of ours. May-ish to September-ish.
It was reported here and mostly ignored.

https://www.qwant.com/?q=southern%20hemisphere%20flu%20season

Last season, CDC stop tracking flu the week of 04/04/2020.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

Note that CDC deals mostly with estimates. They don’t know what they don’t know.
Get the flu, stay home for a week. Don’t see any health professionals - how do you get counted - you don’t.

They have also changed how they rate the efficacy(I now hate that word)of the flu vaccine.
Limited areas of the country with a limited number of patients speak for the whole nation.
Don’t know the algorithm to get the numbers extrapolated at a national level.

They now break it down by how effective it is for what strain and by age\race\sex. So it might suck overall but be great for seniors for Flu “A”.

CDC web site has become ridiculous for trying to find stuff.
This history of flu vaccine effectiveness is an eye-opener.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/past-seasons-estimates.html

Some of us did the dig on this and gave notice of most of this as it happened and nobody much cared because...COVID.
82 posted on 02/25/2021 10:53:01 AM PST by stylin19a (If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball.)
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To: zeugma

Yeah, I know ... jes’ havin’ fun


83 posted on 02/25/2021 11:07:46 AM PST by knarf (The Constitution protects the right to peaceably assemble, not to protest)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“Do you believe that a million doctors, 4 million nurses, millions of lab workers, and the families of over 500,000 people just in the United States alone are all engaged in a massive conspiracy together?”

They have religion, and their religion is “cv19 is a deadly pandemic”, “there are few effective therapeutics”, “we must have a vaccine”, “only vaccines can protect us from viruses” and any medical professional who claims otherwise is a QUACK etc etc etc

Every wellness MD who successfully performs early cv19 treatment, including my own MD, is under attack on social media.


84 posted on 02/25/2021 11:24:44 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“There have been 0 documented cases of COVID-19 transmission via fomites. Zero.”

False. It would be the only virus that’s never spread through anything but breathing through the nose and mouth. It’s a foolish assertion. Use some common sense.

“Conclusions We infer that the ship central air conditioning system did not play a role, i.e. the long-range airborne route was absent in the outbreak. Most transmission appears to have occurred through close contact and fomites.”
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.09.20059113v1

“SARS‐CoV‐2 is spread through close contact with infected individuals and by droplets released into the air during coughing, sneezing and talking. In addition, fomite spread is an important feature, which is not surprising, because it had played a central role in the SARS 2003 epidemic. However, fomites have also proven important during other outbreaks.5, 10 Bed curtains, restroom fixtures, and countertops touched are good examples.”
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/dth.13544

“Prolonged Infectivity of SARS-CoV-2 in Fomites”
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/9/20-1788_article

“Cluster A. A woman aged 55 years (patient A1) and a man aged 56 years (patient A2) were tourists from Wuhan, China, who arrived in Singapore on January 19. They visited a local church the same day and had symptom onset on January 22 (patient A1) and January 24 (patient A2). Three other persons, a man aged 53 years (patient A3), a woman aged 39 years (patient A4), and a woman aged 52 years (patient A5) attended the same church that day and subsequently developed symptoms on January 23, January 30, and February 3, respectively. Patient A5 occupied the same seat in the church that patients A1 and A2 had occupied earlier that day (captured by closed-circuit camera) (5). Investigations of other attendees did not reveal any other symptomatic persons who attended the church that day.”
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6914e1.htm


85 posted on 02/25/2021 11:30:59 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I don’t believe this.


86 posted on 02/25/2021 11:41:03 AM PST by nikos1121 ( )
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To: knarf

Bingo, game, set, match!


87 posted on 02/25/2021 11:50:40 AM PST by Fungi
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To: dynoman
"“Conclusions We infer that the ship central air conditioning system did not play a role, i.e. the long-range airborne route was absent in the outbreak. Most transmission appears to have occurred through close contact and fomites.”"

Their work was to establish whether transmission was long range. They established it was short range. They did not establish it was fomites. We already know that respiratory droplets are the primary culprit and aerosols are a less common, but still important culprit. Still zero cases demonstrating anything other than those two modes of transmission.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/dth.13544

This is a dermatologist writing an article in May 2020, before fomites transmission was determined not to play any major role (or literally any known role whatsoever) in transmission. The dermatologist is parroting what the CDC and WHO were saying at the time based on lab work demonstrating that seemingly viable SARS-CoV-2 virions could survive on surfaces for a period of time. Still zero documented cases of fomite transmission.

“Prolonged Infectivity of SARS-CoV-2 in Fomites”

This was laboratory work looking at the stability of the virions in a laboratory controlled setting. From that article: "Accordingly, it is plausible that fomites infected with SARS-CoV-2 play a key role in the indirect transmission of coronavirus disease (COVID-19)." In other words, in theory, it's possible. Sure. Still zero documented cases of fomite transmission.

"https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6914e1.htm"

Again, this is speculation only. From the article: "the possibility of indirect transmission through fomites by presymptomatic persons is also a concern. Objects might be contaminated directly by droplets or through contact with an infected person’s contaminated hands and transmitted through nonrigorous hygiene practices." The article is focused on pre-symptomatic spread; not fomites in particular. So again, zero documented cases of fomite transmission.

88 posted on 02/25/2021 11:57:11 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

1. I don’t 100% believe the COVID count.
2. Normal flu deaths are up to 61K a year


89 posted on 02/25/2021 11:58:15 AM PST by hattend
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To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark


90 posted on 02/25/2021 12:00:42 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Rad_J

I would not say that almost no one got them. From what I’ve read the percent getting them was about 3% higher this year. But you’re right that it wasn’t the flu shot that made the difference.


91 posted on 02/25/2021 12:31:01 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: JayAr36

Watching Biden’s covid speech right now. He’s got to squint to read the teleprompter. Who knew it was so easy to be president? You just need to be able to read a teleprompter.


92 posted on 02/25/2021 12:33:11 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: SecAmndmt

Every wellness MD who successfully performs early cv19 treatment, including my own MD, is under attack on social media.


Exactly.

Try to go against the current, get deplatformed.


93 posted on 02/25/2021 12:34:53 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“Most transmission appears to have occurred through close contact and fomites.”

Where are scientifically documented cases of airborne transmission? And that masks stop it?

Good luck.


94 posted on 02/25/2021 1:34:05 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

“Where are scientifically documented cases of airborne transmission? And that masks stop it?”

There is zero science behind just about everything to do with the cv19 scamdemic: masks, distancing, lockdowns, conventional “treatment” and refusal to use effective therapeutics, and death certificates.

People are dying because public health and convention medicine insists on ineffective standards of care and refuses to accept what has been known for decades as to vitamin D blood levels and many other things. Their big arrogant ego trip has cost close to a half million lives.


95 posted on 02/25/2021 3:20:13 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SecAmndmt

Yes. https://c19study.com/ click the tabs on the top for the various studies.

This is great information too. https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/Marik-Covid-Protocol-Summary.pdf


96 posted on 02/25/2021 3:49:37 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Suicides, overdoses, delayed/denied care such as most people with heart attacks and strokes not going in. Flu deaths counted as COVID deaths ...


97 posted on 02/25/2021 4:12:49 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Brilliant

Where do you come up with this nonsense? What ACTUAL EVIDENCE do you have that masks and antisocial distancing have prevented covid or flu for that matter? You’re simply speculating, making it up as you go along. There’s a simple common sense possibility that many flu cases are actually diagnosed as covid. There is also viral competition wherein one virus can massively displace another much as the so-called variants are displacing original SARS-COV2 strains.

Don’t simply assume “oh it was masks and social distancing”, without and in spite of evidence. Tell me then why didn’t the masks reduce the covid spread almost to zero, as you claim it did with flu? I’ll be waiting for your reasoning!


98 posted on 02/25/2021 6:56:59 PM PST by libertarian66
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To: libertarian66

What evidence do you have of your misdiagnosis theory? You’re just speculating.


99 posted on 02/26/2021 4:42:18 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: xkaydet65

...and yet were supposed to believe that the flu just went away because were wearing makes now.. B.S.


100 posted on 02/26/2021 7:42:55 AM PST by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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