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Biden's EPA refused Governor Abbott's request. Offered to allow certain power generation facilities a waiver if they raised the prices they charged to Texans to more than $1,500/MWh
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Posted on 02/21/2021 2:23:58 PM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: yesthatjallen

Biden screws Texas


21 posted on 02/21/2021 4:10:24 PM PST by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: JPG
We are civilizing ourselves right into slavery.

We are following rule that make no sense because that is what we have been trained to do.

Don't argue, don't make a scene, do as you are told, follow the law even to your own detriment.

As one of my favorite t-shirts says, I aim to misbehave.

This is no longer about liberal or conservative, democrat or republican, even us or them. It is about survival.

Do what you have to do. And for the love of humanity learn to say no.

22 posted on 02/21/2021 4:12:34 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: yesthatjallen

If the Texas governor had a backbone he would have ordered those stations to generate all the power they needed and sent the national guard to shoot to kill any federal employee who went there to say otherwise.


23 posted on 02/21/2021 4:14:19 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: yesthatjallen
It was Biden's Deparment of Energy (DoE,) not the EPA that demanded the price gouging.






24 posted on 02/21/2021 4:25:44 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: boxlunch
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3936255/posts?page=114#114

“Wind power is an interruptible supply that is treated like a firm supply by know nothings (politicians on all sides, but especially Kerry, Obama, Biden and AOC). Ditto for solar. Electric utilities have to buy electricity from both wind and solar suppliers and then when they do not perform, the utility has to go into the market and purchase what the inefficient interruptible wind and solar suppliers don't produce, at a much higher price especially in critical time. If I were a utility and were allowed to do what made sense I would charge the correct pricing signal to the interruptible suppliers. Right now that is not happening. My guess, this pricing malfunction is causing market disruptions. “

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3936255/posts?page=118#118

“ Utilities are allowed a very small reserve margin. On extreme days, pipeline will call Critical Time minimizing flexibility (draw) on a daily and hourly basis. The utility's gas controllers (heroes in my estimation).will pack the line (distribution system) to meet hourly requirements. If utility customers’, aka end users’, suppliers do not nominate what is actually being used the utility will have to make up the difference. That difference will come from utility owned storage or storage services purchased from pipelines.

Utilities are governed by local Public Utility Commissions (PUC).
Pipelines are governed by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC).”

25 posted on 02/21/2021 4:55:46 PM PST by Chgogal (Hey Biden, I am a loyal supporter of the Biden's Banana Republic!)
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To: A Navy Vet

Says in the Bible “Pride comes before the great fall”. I would say these arrogant asses are about to find out what “great fall” means.


26 posted on 02/21/2021 5:09:35 PM PST by richardtavor ( )
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To: yesthatjallen; All

The SCOTUS would say Texas had no standing, if Texas brought what would be a 100% legitimate lawsuit against the FedGov and sock puppet, CCP bribed, pedophile “Buyden”.

TEXIT (along with many other states/counties), is the only way to —

- Regain control of their state(s)
- Re-establish and enforce true election laws
- Re-establish ultimate power to the actual electorate/people
- Re-establish and enforce the actual “Bill of Rights”
- Control their own financials-economies-trade agreements
- Take back ultimate state control of their respective National Guard/defense organizations (requirimg volunteer NG policies which enforce Constitutional and actual historical knowledge before oaths, loyalty, love for God, love family (man/woman), love and duty of Country, and absolute desire to battle all true evil “foreign and domestic”.

Could go on and on, but this is likely the only way to fix anything, including the most fundamental of all — our elections.

Anything less, and FedGov soon demands full compliance with their totalitarian control, compliance with total perversion and fraudulent elections, and absolute anti-American, anti-God forced perversion indoctrination of all children, society, and all agencies of FedGov, especially the DOJ, IC, and military.

Otherwise we will very soon have Stalin/Hitler/Mao style brutal bloodbaths and democide.


27 posted on 02/21/2021 8:09:04 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: austinaero

It is the EPA. They do not set limits on power capacity of a electric plant. They set the limits for the emissions that plant can produce per unit of energy. In this gas grams per kilowatts hour. NOx , SOx, lead,mercury, arsenic, particulates as well. There is a fundamental physics limit based on combustion conditions for a given mass of air flow of how much NOx will be produced. Higher temps equals more NOx emissions that’s a function of physics. The plants have a limit as to how much they can make per kWh so the operator has to choose who to meet that limit. They could run high temps max output limited by the plastic melting temp of the high pressure turbines first stages they would have to install SCR catalysts to destroy the high levels of NOx such combustion would create. The other choice is to not run that hot and keep the NOx levels inside the legal limits by reduced combustion temperature this of course due to the rules of thermodynamics means lower total power output. Again within the legal limits of the amount produced per kWh in this case less kWh for equal emissions to stay under the legal limits. The third choice is to modify the combustion parameters from lean or rich to a staged combustion process Georgia tech has a combustion that uses lean burn to drop the O2 level in the first stage and then rich burn to.raise the temps and this power output without the NOx of a pure high O2 burn. Both the scr and stage combustion cost $$$$ so most plants run right up to the NOx limits with out control technologies it is the emissions limits that set max power for a given set of combustion parameters.

Abbot asked for a waiver of the emissions limits so that plants who have not out in SCR or staged combustion could run way WAY over the NOx limits and burn the turbines right up to the plastic melting temps of the turbines it’s like adding nitrous to a drag racing car once you add in the extra fuel and nitrous power output jumps but you are now well outside normal and permitted operating conditions. In the gas turbines case upwards of a hundred times the emissions limits. The reason the high price per mwh was to discourage the whole.scale use of rich burning and saving thousands of tons of toxic nitric oxide emissions which cause smog, acid rain, and if inhaled respiratory distress syndrome. These plants could have already installed SCR or staged combustion and they would have been able to operate at max combustion temperature full time within the existing EPA pollution limits.


28 posted on 02/21/2021 8:33:37 PM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: LibertyOh

It looks like it was approved? No?


29 posted on 02/22/2021 5:00:25 AM PST by DrewsMum
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To: yesthatjallen

Bastards. And Abbot should have told them to pound sand and fire up all available and needed generators. Let the chips fall where they may.
The nation would not have stood by and allowed insane penalties to be doled out for people trying to stay warm.
Another FReeper said it, we are being conditioned to be good little agreeable citizens and just take it when the government tells you to do something. Screw that. I willingly gave up my freedoms in the Army for the cause of freedom. That time in my life is over.


30 posted on 02/22/2021 5:35:32 AM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: JD_UTDallas

It was the DOE and not the EPA that was requiring price gouging in order to meet the emergency needs of Texas. Read the text of the Order posted above. I can’t confirm or deny your statements regarding the amount of increased pollution, but as I understand it the power plants were operating at 60% so increasing to 100% of the actual design load shouldn’t have been a big problem and not risk “plastic melting temperatures” - which by the way seems like you are not describing actual gas turbine engines. Stage 1 equipment is metal with various cooling schemes, and often operate above the actual melting temperature of the base metal that will usually have a combination of thermal barrier coatings and internal cooling in addition to film cooling that keeps the metal at safe temperatures.

Bottom line is there should be an investigation into this whole matter and expose any political decisions that were made.


31 posted on 02/22/2021 9:18:49 AM PST by LibertyOh
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