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The architect of Texas' electricity market says it's working as planned. Critics compare it to late Soviet Russia.
The Week ^ | 02/17/2021 | Peter Weber

Posted on 02/17/2021 2:15:49 PM PST by BipolarBob

"It's not convenient," Hogan told the Times. "It's not nice. It's necessary."

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: electricity; goodlord; texas; texasenergy; texaslackofenergy
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To: Rusty0604

Just trying to understand! No need to get huffy.


61 posted on 02/17/2021 5:27:18 PM PST by TrumpisRight (It is --> President Trump <--)
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To: Clay Moore

What??? We lived in Richardson in 1983. There was never 30 days below freezing. Where in Texas was that? Panhandle, maybe?


62 posted on 02/17/2021 5:28:23 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: BipolarBob

I don’t think this **** should be happening in the first place but since it is... they should have to post/notify the public of zip codes and the planned rotations.

The start of every year they need to send out the schedule that will be used if needed.

Zip 66666 will have 3 on 5 off- it needs to be charted, this way people can shut off their heating/cooling, turn off their electronics etcetera.

They are tearing up peoples stuff as it is and are responsible for so much damage, with freezing pipes and homes severely water damaged.

They are acting like some type of masters and we are at their whims, no sir, this **** ain’t gonna fly.


63 posted on 02/17/2021 5:33:45 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Jrabbit

DFW in 1983.


64 posted on 02/17/2021 5:34:44 PM PST by Clay Moore (RIP, Rush )
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To: DesertRhino

Pickens, I don’t like to speak bad of the departed but I would love to kick him in the pants, over and over.

He went water miser and that still worries me, it’s going to bite us.

I do not like him ONE little bit!


65 posted on 02/17/2021 5:38:38 PM PST by Irenic
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To: BipolarBob

Yup.

I read now that the near pure capitalism system was designed by some Harvard expert on global energy. He says the system worked just like it was designed to. Seems the system simply threw the doors open to unbridled capitalism without regulation of much of a sort of any kind. No public protection.


66 posted on 02/17/2021 5:39:24 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: setter

Ridiculous. Natural gas does not freeze. The natural gas pipelines are buried (i.e. insulated/weatherized with dirt). The problem is the massive load on the grid from people trying to keep their houses warm enough that their water pipes don’t freeze and break. Houses in southeast Texas are built to withstand the occasional overnight temperature of 29-32 degrees, but not a week of sustained below freezing temperatures.


67 posted on 02/17/2021 5:40:42 PM PST by Cheesehead in Texas
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To: ptsal

Senor Don Gato meow, meow, meow?


68 posted on 02/17/2021 5:45:45 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Clay Moore

December 18-30. My mistake.


69 posted on 02/17/2021 5:49:31 PM PST by Clay Moore (RIP, Rush )
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To: McGavin999

Unless the GSM crowd is right. Th predicted this kind of cold could be more common for the next 30 years.


70 posted on 02/17/2021 5:55:33 PM PST by D Rider ( )
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To: Carl Vehse

This is a one off. Learn from it and make the best decision. Three things can go wrong; people, process or technology. This was technology. Does The risk of not fixing this cost more than the circumstances?


71 posted on 02/17/2021 5:56:04 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Keep the Faith. Everything happens for a reason.)
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To: Irenic

He was very rough on trying to corner all the water in west Texas. It’ll wind up hurting a lot of people.

That Oklahoma hedge fund guy did a lot of damage to Texas and that’s just a fact.


72 posted on 02/17/2021 6:14:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: DesertRhino

Indeed.


73 posted on 02/17/2021 6:15:39 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Cheesehead in Texas; Sequoyah101

You both are clueless. Here is marcellus/Utica country with zero temps the norm in winter we winterize the natural gas pumping stations with systems to remove the water vapor from the gas drilling process.

Per DM article: The Texas EROT commission said in 2011 or 2012 Texas was unprepared for a extreme weather condition and told power and gas companies to winterize their infrastructure but most did not. “Poor winter infrastructure in Texas has brought the natural gas system grinding to a halt, with drilling fluid freezing in gas pipes, frozen wellheads unable to produce, and diesel-fueled pumps refusing to start.
Even coal plants went offline as coal piles were frozen to the ground, and one of the two reactors of the South Texas Nuclear Power Station had to be shut down after the cooling pumps froze.
While similar facilities in the Northern states are equipped to handle extended temperatures below freezing, Texas, which hasn’t experienced a similar cold snap in a decade, simply didn’t have the infrastructure in place to weather the storm.”


74 posted on 02/17/2021 6:47:37 PM PST by setter
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To: BipolarBob

Then the plan was a disaster. Today proves that.


75 posted on 02/17/2021 6:55:14 PM PST by mulligan (an En bbnnEeThe to)
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To: Cheesehead in Texas; Sequoyah101

“Natural gas does not freeze”

Oh it sure does when it has water vapor mixed in from the fracking and drilling process . Texas requires 24 million barrels per day. Transmission lines froze and was only able to deliver 12-14 million per day and plants had to be shut down.
This is why in my great state above the largest gas deposits in the country we have water separators..something Texas felt they did not need.

Read this aerticle and it explains fully why your state is out of electric power.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/natural-gas-power-storm/


76 posted on 02/17/2021 6:58:10 PM PST by setter
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To: BipolarBob

77 posted on 02/17/2021 6:58:13 PM PST by knarf (The Constitution protects the right to peaceably assemble, not to protest)
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To: TrumpisRight

Having a bad day, car stuck in ice, walked, some very nice people gave me a ride and parked my car that was stuck in parking lot.


78 posted on 02/17/2021 7:09:34 PM PST by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: setter

Stick to something you have knowledge of. This isn’t one of those things.


79 posted on 02/17/2021 7:24:42 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: Sequoyah101

Prove me wrong.you can’t.
Read the article I just p
osted. Follow the money.
Somoe oil execs oil execs got a big bonus instead of adding water seperators as they were advised


80 posted on 02/17/2021 7:30:02 PM PST by setter
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