Posted on 02/17/2021 5:31:53 AM PST by uscga77
Nobody listens especially politicians until the lights (and heat!) go out. Texas voters will remember how our state officials 'managed' this energy crisis and set us up for failure with a foolish reliance on wind and solar that is not advanced enough to keep us warm. For some rolling blackouts are a big misnomer that have people freezing for many hours if not days. Pray and be good neighbors, especially to the elderly and those with little children.
The preppers are doing fine. They have their generators going along with the pellet wood burning stoves.
Just wait until your electric car is expected to act as the utilities backup source.
I have a 0 omission portable Dyna Glo propane heater. Supposed to run for 3-4 days on a 20 lb. tank. Considering getting a wall mounted one plumbed into my natural gas supply.
penny wise, pound foolish. The companies that built the wind farms evidently did not want to spend the additional money to do what ever they do to wind turbines in North Dakota or Montana. Have never heard of those wind turbines freezing up and the get those below freezing winters every year.
“Although some people have seemed excited to see so many businesses from California and New York (and other places) moving to Texas, to me that has always seemed like a deliberate effort to flood the state with Liberals.”
Florida is next. AZ too as well as NC and GA. DeSantis is the saving grace of FL, but he only one by a hair against a total leftist Dem last Gov election.
So the fault lies not with renewable energy but in not making the investment that would guarantee it works in all weather.
If this had been a one day event and life was back to normal within a couple days, I don’t think it would have made much difference in the green energy push.
This is a far different scenario.
This is DAYS of being more than inconvenienced.
People have died, pipes have frozen and are ruptured and going to cost, people are COLD, there’s no water in some areas, other stuff will be damaged from freezing that shouldn’t have.
I foresee two things.
One is I HOPE, that people will really start pushing back against green energy. While it’s a fine idea, it’s time has not yet come and we cannot abandon what we have that works until we have something with which to replace it.
The other is a run on prepping stuff, like wood stoves and alternate forms of heat.
Exactly! I will not forget. Our rolling beautiful Texas landscape has been ruined with thousands of these monstrous windmills sticking out from the ground from nowhere. What a joke they have been! F climate change hair on fire alarmist POS!! Abbott better step it up or else ...say hello to a rat governor.. They are experts on flipping the tables of blame when this atrocity is on them!
YES exactly!! They are here already and those big businesses that are moving from California are bringing in those liberal asses to our beautiful Texas. The next election is going to be crucial and the balance of power my switch to the evil demonkkkrats!! Crenshaw, Cornyn and Cruz are not helping at all by stabbing Trump constantly at every turn. I’m afraid we are just a hair strand away from losing Texas! As it stands right now Texans are pissed!Anything can happen after this.
Dan is cool. Greg is not.
***I have never heard of gas or coal power plant having to shut down because of cold weather**
The coal plants probably do not shut down but the feeders trip off due to being clogged with ice from the coal pile.
In winter we fought every time there was a storm to keep the unit on line for if it did trip off due to ice then the unit would freeze up and water lines would burst.
One was when the dum bass of a plant manager had us shut down to clean precipitators. He was warned a massive cold spell was coming. His words were ...”Well MY weather man said it will be WARM!”
We shut down and for a week fought freezing and burst pipes while working outside in the blizzard trying to do clean the precipitators.
Startup was a bi*ch as so many of the coal hoppers had ice in them. We opened the feeder. It was so cold we put radiant heaters on the pipe to thaw it, then the ice game loose, and a big slug of coal and ice slid down onto the feeder belt. It took hours with chatter guns to get that big slug out of the way and dry coal flowing onto the belt.
Our plant was designed for Southern Texas. So they built a copy 400 miles to the north. No winterizing at all. We fought cold and ice every year.
Do you have a link on that?
Germany and Sweden have had a fair amount of problems with their windmills.
Well it turns out to be true. All types of energy production are screwed up. There is a nuclear plant that was closed down because of the cold. Natural gas isn’t flowing due to weather. Simple fact is that the infrastructure inst weatherized against these temps. I love in CA and I am affected because my company has our computer infrastructure there! Spoke to a buddy in out IT. We have sufficient generator capacity to keep us up...but the diesel fuel requires isn’t flowing!
I see a run on generators, after some of this dust clears.
People on Nextdoor are wishing they had bought one.
We sure appreciate ours and our prepping supplies/food, etc.
Many of our area grocery stores and gas stations are closed. People desperate for propane, butane (why didn’t they fill their tanks months ago, for winter??) and.... food. And, plumbers. 😱😱😱
The Texas builders hoped for the best and did not plan for the worst.
Indeed. It was a short-sighted decision on their part, and one that isn't going to really bite them because when all this is over and the power is back on the customers have no choice but to continue to buy it from them.
Indeed. It was a short-sighted decision on their part, and one that isn't going to really bite them because when all this is over and the power is back on the customers have no choice but to continue to buy it from them.
The trouble lies with ERCOT and the EPA not the builders. Electric companies build and maintain and shut down what the regulating officials tell them to do. Electric companies may propose different projects but if not approved they don’t build them. Right now in Texas are thousands of megawatts not being generated because of these very agencies. Hundreds of jobs lost and thousands of people in the dark freezing. Don’t blame the electric companies, they just do the state and federals bidding.
No one wanted to pay because it would raise the cost of the energy produced . Your cost would now be slightly higher than the power company down the road and consumers would flock to them.
Of course, no one is ready for winter but when it hits it isn't the power companies who take the hit, it's the customers.
Sometimes there's a place for government regulation even if it raises costs in the short term, and mandating reliability of electrical production seems to qualify.
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