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Some Classical Music tempo is too darn fast! Any way to know this before you buy?
Feb. 16 2021 | Lee Martell

Posted on 02/16/2021 8:27:36 PM PST by lee martell

File this under; First World Problems...I enjoy many types of music. I'm still buying CDs to increase my collection. I have been trying to replace a certain recording of Bach's Brandenburg Concertos. I had this one CD with no cover that I often listened to, but lost it during a move. I've been trying to replace that favored recording, but everything I've purchased since then has a very quick pace.

I am in no 'hurry' to finish hearing the music. In fact, I'd prefer to prolong the experience. If I wanted to hear Brandenbrg #5 with all the harpsichord sounding as though directed by Alvin & The Chimpmunks at 78 speed, then I would have searched for that. I'm not impressed by how quickly it can be performed. I have purchased a couple of such CDs and threw them out after a few minutes of hearing the rushed delivery. I know it's up to the Conductor.

When looking through recorded Classical Music, is there any designation on the recorded product as to how quick the pace is? Or is it always fated to be a gamble. The same can be said about another favorite: Felix Mendelssohn's Concerto E Minor Op 64. It's fast enough as is, when he wrote it. I don't need it further 'spiced up'.


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1 posted on 02/16/2021 8:27:36 PM PST by lee martell
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To: lee martell

You can find the recording on Apple Music and you can sample it for free.


2 posted on 02/16/2021 8:34:02 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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Most of the classical recordings I have show a total time elapsed for each piece.

Can you use that info to see which performances are more properly paced?

3 posted on 02/16/2021 8:34:16 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not my current tagline.)
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To: lee martell
Most CDs have how long any song is right on the cover.

You can check to see how long it was in the original and then check to see how long it is in the recording.

4 posted on 02/16/2021 8:34:23 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

That makes the most sense. Thank you.


5 posted on 02/16/2021 8:35:29 PM PST by lee martell
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Barnes and Noble had headsets in their music section the last time I was there. You can sample the music to find the track you want. There are also sites on line that allow you to hear a portion of the recording before downloading onto a CD. Hope that helps.


6 posted on 02/16/2021 8:35:47 PM PST by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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This web site appears to recommend some recordings that are not aimed at the short attention span crowd:

https://www.classical-music.com/features/recordings/best-recordings-js-bachs-brandenburg-concertos/

7 posted on 02/16/2021 8:36:53 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not my current tagline.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I will be looking for that original time to compare.

By the by;
I’ve found that it’s still true that even a cheap stereo system in a car is often much better than a home styled system. For one thing, I can’t crank the volume up at home the way I can while driving on a freeway. I don’t want to be one of those neighbors blasting music no one wants to hear.


8 posted on 02/16/2021 8:39:03 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Amberdawn

Barnes & Noble! I haven’t been in one of those stores since we also had Tower Records. Tower used to have an extensive Classical Music section with sliding glass doors to trap the sound in. There are not many B&N remaining in this area.


9 posted on 02/16/2021 8:41:29 PM PST by lee martell
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

That’s now on my ‘Must Investigate’ list.


10 posted on 02/16/2021 8:42:28 PM PST by lee martell
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Well, there’s only so much time on each side of the LP.


11 posted on 02/16/2021 8:46:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Are you a Philly guy? I remember the old Tower records on South Street when I was 16 years old! There’s a B&N in Wilmington De.


12 posted on 02/16/2021 8:48:42 PM PST by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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No, I’m in California. Yes. Tower used to be Mister Big with all manner of recorded music. Their store in Berkeley had three floors at one time, and was always crowded.


13 posted on 02/16/2021 8:51:55 PM PST by lee martell
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A lot of older recordings had to fit them on the media of the time. Including 78 RPM records and even the old spools. So they sped them up.

Give me a minute, I'm going to find a perfect example.

14 posted on 02/16/2021 8:54:18 PM PST by real saxophonist (The mouse doesn't understand why the cheese is free.)
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There is software like Audacity that will let you change the tempo of any tune while maintaining the pitch. Thus you can buy any version of the Brandenburg Concertos and customize it to your liking.

As for this being a First World problem, as a wise person told me...."yes, it IS a First World Problem.....but we LIVE in the First World."

15 posted on 02/16/2021 8:55:35 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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Oh, OK. I didn’t know Tower was nationwide, I just remember local radio DJ’s hosting events there in Philly.


16 posted on 02/16/2021 8:57:26 PM PST by Amberdawn (Want To Honor Our Troops? Then Be A Citizen Worth Fighting For.)
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There was an out-of-the-way record store near I. Goldberg’s that I’d hit when buying camping gear in the 80s. I bought a few Zappa records and a live Al DiMeola album there...it was great. I’m sure it’s long gone.


17 posted on 02/16/2021 8:58:08 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: real saxophonist

Some Progressive Rockers did that too.
They knew the usual limits of an LP, but decided to jam a ton of songs on the discs anyway.
A few who were good at engineering sound, got away with it.
I’m speaking of Todd Rundgrens’ A Wizard, A True Star’ album from 1973. 19 tracks and 57 minutes served up hot.


18 posted on 02/16/2021 9:02:07 PM PST by lee martell
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Okay, here is a way sped up (and seriously remastered) version of 'The Planets', conducted by the composer Gustav Holst. He hated this recording, said it sounded 'comical', 'Charlie Chaplin'.

This was 1926, and one had to do what one had to do to fit the recording on the media available at the time.

19 posted on 02/16/2021 9:06:31 PM PST by real saxophonist (The mouse doesn't understand why the cheese is free.)
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To: lee martell

you never heard of allegro?


20 posted on 02/16/2021 9:19:15 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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