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This Blizzard Exposes The Perils Of Attempting To ‘Electrify Everything’
Forbes Magazine ^ | Feb 15, 2021 | Robert Bryce

Posted on 02/15/2021 10:03:05 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

The massive blast of Siberia-like cold that is wreaking havoc across North America is proving that if we humans want to keep surviving frigid winters, we are going to have to keep burning natural gas — and lots of it — for decades to come.

That cold reality contradicts the “electrify everything” scenario that’s being promoted by climate change activists, politicians, and academics. They claim that to avert the possibility of catastrophic climate change, we must stop burning hydrocarbons and convert all of our transportation, residential, commercial, and industrial systems so that they are powered solely on electricity, with most of that juice coming, of course, from forests of wind turbines and oceans of solar panels.

This blizzard proves that during extreme weather winter, solar panels and wind turbines are of little or no value to the electric grid.

This blizzard proves that our natural gas grid is part of our critical infrastructure and that we shut it down at our peril. The natural gas network is essential because it can deliver big surges in energy supplies during periods of peak demand.

Thanks to excellent geology, a century of gas production, and a fully developed transmission and distribution grid, the domestic natural gas sector can deliver surges of the fuel that are, in fact, lifesaving.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: blackouts; climatechange; globalwarming; greenenergy; texasblackouts
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To: stanne

You buy a backup generator.
Everyone here in NH has one.
I have a Honda 7500 watt.
I can run everything in my house except my electric oven, stove and dryer which all have 30amp breakers.

If you have propane or lucky enough to have natural gas (NG is rare here) you get a backup generator that runs off of gas.
My daughter has this system.
With their underground tank, they can run their house for 3 weeks with a full tank.

The downfall of a gasoline standby generator is that they only have a tank that will run for about a day.
So, every day you will need to run to the fuel station to refill your gas cans


41 posted on 02/16/2021 5:04:56 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Nateman

Coal’s not going to “run out” anytime soon. We have enough coal here in the US alone to run *everything* for a couple hundred years i.e. burning it and gasifying it to produce fuels for vehicles and so on. The only bottleneck for coal is political.


42 posted on 02/16/2021 5:12:02 AM PST by Little Pig
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To: central_va

PV = PhotoVoltaic. “Solar cells” Sunlight to electricity.


43 posted on 02/16/2021 5:14:44 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

READ later.


44 posted on 02/16/2021 5:17:03 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: woodbutcher1963

I know the value of a generator. it isn’t electric.


45 posted on 02/16/2021 5:23:33 AM PST by stanne
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To: woodbutcher1963

I ran a generator on/off for a week with no power in NC. Until the propane tanks were getting low. Takes power too to refill propane-which no station had to pump it. But storing propane beats storing gasoline any day of the week


46 posted on 02/16/2021 5:32:54 AM PST by Swanks
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

There is no way to power our industrialized society except by coal/gas/petroleum/nuclear power. Windmills and solar panels don’t actually help. Power plants have to be able to function during peak demand periods. Those periods are when windmills and solar panels don’t provide any power.

The real reason why they promote solar/wind is because they want to destroy the industrialized society that we have and return us to the dark ages.


47 posted on 02/16/2021 5:43:47 AM PST by I want the USA back (The nation is in the grips of hysterical insanity, as usual.)
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To: fruser1

A friend of ours works on natural gas pipelines. His job is replacing the old (think 40-50 years) steel pipes with a special PVC product that’s supposed to be far more resistant to the elements.

They can’t work in these conditions right now. We are west of Chicago and it’s been between 0 and 10 degrees for the last week or so with quite a bit of snow.

But he said the old steel pipes are at the end or even past the end of their useful lifespan so they’re at risk of all sorts of failures. They’re all buried below the freeze line around here, I believe he said 42 inches or so.

That’s all I know about it. If the NiGas grid goes sideways here a lot of folks will be in very serious trouble. I mean a LOT of folks.

L


48 posted on 02/16/2021 5:48:22 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: Swanks

Do you not get delivery to fill your propane tank?

If people have propane to heat their house around here they typically have a tank on their property that holds hundreds of gallons. That tank is typically owned by a local propane delivery company that comes around on a regular fill up route based on your past usage.


49 posted on 02/16/2021 6:40:04 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

I bring the 20 gl tanks in for fill up. Initially started with the (portable) 6500 kw generator and enough fuel to get me thru 1-2 wks. It is, after all, NC.
(Don’t like the weather, wait an hour). The 20 gl is about as big as one can fill + still transport. I should look into a permanent tank.


50 posted on 02/16/2021 6:53:27 AM PST by Swanks
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To: central_va

photo voltaic.


51 posted on 02/16/2021 7:06:27 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: central_va

photo voltaic.


52 posted on 02/16/2021 7:06:30 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: central_va

photo voltaic.


53 posted on 02/16/2021 7:06:32 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Been there as well down in Mississippi. And it was NOT a good sub for the regular heating system either. Must have been a heck of a stove if it heated the whole house. LOL!


54 posted on 02/16/2021 7:12:02 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: Swanks

If you want to be able to switch suppliers depending on who is the cheapest then you have to buy your own tank.

My daughter’s house had an existing tank in the ground. It think it hold about 600 gallons(not sure).
Fortunately, the previous owner had purchased the tank when he built the house.

In most cases around here the propane delivery company owns the big tank that sits on your property. Then you can only refill the tank with gas from that company.


55 posted on 02/16/2021 7:42:34 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
We need to ‘deal’ with our politicians and academics.
56 posted on 02/16/2021 8:32:00 AM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

And the media.


57 posted on 02/16/2021 8:33:14 AM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: central_va

Sure a generator, and 3 6g cans of non-oxy.


58 posted on 02/16/2021 9:16:12 AM PST by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

And at the same time Biden shuts off the keystone pipeline. Isn’t some of their precious electricity produced by natural gas? Or even gas?

And we thought he was senile.


59 posted on 02/16/2021 9:24:25 AM PST by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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