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COVID-19 Vaccine World Leader Israel Still Doesn’t Experience Marked Reduction in Daily Cases: Situation Should be Monitored - With 72% of the Israeli population vaccinated, case counts still not declining
Trial Site News ^ | 02/15/2021

Posted on 02/15/2021 7:49:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/15/2021 7:49:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Honestly who gives a crap about positive cases? Frankly I think it’s good there are so many positive cases. Almost everyone gets it and gets over it. That’s a good thing.


2 posted on 02/15/2021 7:51:33 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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Been trending down since 1.16
Given that the second vaccines were administered in late December at the earliest, I think this is a bit premature and more importantly since the 16 when there would be the first full immunities, numbers are retreating.


3 posted on 02/15/2021 7:52:28 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: vpintheak

Isn’t the point of vaccination to PREVENT infection?


4 posted on 02/15/2021 7:52:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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90% effective after one shot according to the article.

But I didn’t see a breakdown of persons who had no shot vs persons with the booster shot, 21 days after the booster shot, persons with a prior case of covid (assumed immunity at some level), or no prior infection or shot.

Also is this a steady population or people coming in (possibly already infected)?

Another question, infected with the 2019/2020 covid or the UK or South African variants? Or a new variant?

India reported no deaths in a day a week ago. Did any of that change (for better or worse)?


5 posted on 02/15/2021 7:57:30 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Call on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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To: vpintheak

You’re either going to get the vaccine or the virus. Eventually, you’re going to get one or the other. This virus is just that transmissible. So you’re gonna have to pick your poison.


6 posted on 02/15/2021 7:57:58 PM PST by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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Are the people who got the vaccine getting infected?


7 posted on 02/15/2021 8:00:05 PM PST by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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Agree....I know 4 people who have had it. 3 of them were male in their 70's. They all got through it.

One had many, many medical problems including a pre-existing lung problem. They all had different symptoms. None were hospitalized.

The 4th was a 23 year old girl who worked at Subway. She's had it twice now. I think she's some kind of carrier so stay waaaaay away from her.

8 posted on 02/15/2021 8:01:09 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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RE: India reported no deaths in a day a week ago. Did any of that change (for better or worse)?

India has not vaccinated a large percentage of her population ( 1.4 billion people ). But she does distribute Hydorxychloroquine and Ivermectin extensively.

see here:

https://principia-scientific.com/indias-miraculous-ivermectin-covid-treatment-is-only-3-per-person/

and here:

https://www.sgtreport.com/2021/01/india-develops-covid-treatment-kit-for-less-than-3-per-person-with-miraculous-ivermectin/

and here:

https://trialsitenews.com/municipality-of-lucknow-in-up-india-now-distributes-free-ivermectin-via-kiosks-to-treat-covid-19-is-there-a-rwe-study-backing-this-effort/


9 posted on 02/15/2021 8:02:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Puke virus hit in school last week. Went through like wildfire. Too fast to quarantine and stop the spread though. I think our quick response in cleaning everything helped though. That was very contagious! But this Covid stuff is slooowwwwwww. One adult one week, another two weeks later, another a month later, a cluster over Christmas break, none, one a month later.


10 posted on 02/15/2021 8:04:09 PM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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RE: Are the people who got the vaccine getting infected?

Don’t know much about Israel, but we in the USA have a CONGRESSMAN who, after taking the complete 2 shot dosage of Pfizer, STILL got infected. He is Rep. Stephen Lynch.

See here:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/congressman-tests-positive-covid-vaccine-dr-marc-siegel


11 posted on 02/15/2021 8:04:55 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Cases Schmases...look at what really counts! The doctors and researchers have figured out the right therapies and drugs. Few people are dying from COVID in Israel. The recovery rate has been inching upward since March 2020. It was 98.0% back then is now 99.2%.


12 posted on 02/15/2021 8:05:08 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Life is short, and work long, opportunity fleeting, experiments dangerous, and judgment hard)
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Worldometer data says that new infections in Israel are down about 40% since January 14th.

The title saying that Israel "doesn’t experience marked reduction in daily cases" doesn't make sense.

13 posted on 02/15/2021 8:11:34 PM PST by FreeReign (Never forget The Steal)
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They aren’t vaccines, they are perverse gene therapy.


14 posted on 02/15/2021 8:16:52 PM PST by PTBAA
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To: SeekAndFind

Did you read that article? There’s a lot of pertinent info there.


15 posted on 02/15/2021 8:31:10 PM PST by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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Just 2 weeks to flatten the curve


16 posted on 02/15/2021 8:37:05 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Call on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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My poison is the virus. I am also 99% sure I had it last February. Along with the group of guys I worked with. We all got sick with a “weird respiratory” illness in January & February. Right when a guy can back from vacation in Hawaii. He had pneumonia-like illness, but was negative for pneumonia.
I felt kind of like glass was in my lungs for 2-3 days. That was it.


17 posted on 02/15/2021 8:38:48 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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RE: There’s a lot of pertinent info there.

Yes I did read it. I am posting the relevant information in this article:

Is the congressman in the 5% group that are not successfully immunized against COVID by the Pfizer vaccine? As long as he remains symptom-free the answer is most likely not. He probably picked up the virus from his staffer and it is in his nose, causing a positive test. But the vaccine is protecting him from getting sick, which is what we are hoping it will do.

The question remains how contagious he is. How much virus does he have? This is known as viral load. Is he less likely to transmit the virus to others because of the vaccine? The answer to this isn’t known yet. This exact question is under investigation, but the chances are very likely that the vaccine also decreases transmissibility even in someone like Lynch, who tests positive as a result of exposure.

Keep in mind that in Israel, observational data has shown that in a group of over 715,425 people one week after receiving their second Pfizer shot, only 317 got COVID. Maccabi Healthcare Services in Israel also revealed that out of 163,000 given both shots, only 31 were infected, compared to 6,500 infections among a control group of unvaccinated people.


18 posted on 02/15/2021 8:40:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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RE: Are the people who got the vaccine getting infected?

So, in answer to your question, the answer is YES. But they are a very small minority of them ( based on the Israeli experience so far ) as compared to the unvaccinated group.


19 posted on 02/15/2021 8:43:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Good question. I think Pfizer effiicacy was stated to prevent 95% of mild and severe COVID. So do the vaccines still allow people to become infected and possibly asymptomatic spreaders of COVID?


20 posted on 02/15/2021 8:43:49 PM PST by FreedomForce
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