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Troopers dressed as construction workers ticket drivers on I-87
The Adirondack Daily Enterprise ^ | July 24, 2020 | The Enterprise Staff

Posted on 02/11/2021 8:37:36 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

KEESEVILLE — State troopers disguised as construction workers issued 26 tickets Tuesday in the “Operation Hard Hat” initiative on the Adirondack Northway (Interstate 87) near the Clinton-Essex County line.

The New York State Police Troop B and state Department of Transportation announced the news Thursday. Operation Hard Hat is a joint initiative of the two agencies to crack down on work zone violations and highlight the importance of safe driving through active construction and maintenance zones. They say this initiative, like past ones, was successful, and they plan to do more later this summer.

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KEYWORDS: construction; distracteddriving; infrastructure; newyork; police; safety; seatbelts; speeding; tickets; transportation; troopers; workzonesafety
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

maryland state police used to set up a plastic silhouette of a police cruiser in the median of route 50 on the eastern shore...

someone stole it... 😁


21 posted on 02/11/2021 9:12:24 AM PST by heavy metal (your reward will be in heaven not on your paycheck...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Two agencies to crack down on work zone violations

Damned good idea to many idiots fail to slow down many Caltrans workers and in other states have been splattered over the years and it’s a slow painful death.
1/2 the people on the road shouldn’t be.


22 posted on 02/11/2021 9:16:24 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wouldn’t that be entrapment?


23 posted on 02/11/2021 9:19:10 AM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.


24 posted on 02/11/2021 9:25:20 AM PST by Veggie Todd (Religion. It's like a History class. Without the facts. )
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To: Vaduz
Its all about the revenue and nothing to do with safety. They are nothing but modern day pirates able to pick and choose what vehicle to plunder. I guarantee you that if the local police departments had to send revenue generated from moving violations directly to the state you would never see another cop on the road again.

The District Attorneys are also in on the scam. Go to court to appeal a ticket that results in an insurance surcharge. They will offer to replace the original ticket to one with a higher penalty but no surcharge. More money on their pocket. I have no respect for any of them.
25 posted on 02/11/2021 9:28:04 AM PST by RBW in PA
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Operation Hard Hat is a joint initiative of the two agencies to crack down on work zone violations and highlight the importance of safe driving through active construction and maintenance zones.”

nonsense. NYS needs the money.


26 posted on 02/11/2021 9:29:42 AM PST by wny
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Our cops do this in Florida too...

They stop idiots near schools from speeding by pretending to be golfers on golf carts... and everything else imaginable. It’s a great system. The disguised group has the speed guns and around the corner cops in cop cars pull the speeders off to ticket them.

The goal is to keep the community safe. It works.


27 posted on 02/11/2021 9:38:16 AM PST by GOPJ (If democrat thugs are gonna kill me - I'm gonna try to have it done before "the showers"...)
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To: RBW in PA

Its all about the revenue and nothing to do with safety.

100% BS you may want to look up states records of how many worker were murdered by idiot drivers.
Revenue has nothing to do with it if a city or sates want more of they have a hundred ways of doing so.


28 posted on 02/11/2021 9:44:57 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hard Hat! Hard Hat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_G10herHMU


29 posted on 02/11/2021 9:51:53 AM PST by Hound46804
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To: RBW in PA

Its all about the revenue and nothing to do with safety. They are nothing but modern day pirates able to pick and choose what vehicle to plunder. I guarantee you that if the local police departments had to send revenue generated from moving violations directly to the state you would never see another cop on the road again.

The District Attorneys are also in on the scam. Go to court to appeal a ticket that results in an insurance surcharge. They will offer to replace the original ticket to one with a higher penalty but no surcharge. More money on their pocket. I have no respect for any of them.

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I agree 100%! Repulsive and slimy.


30 posted on 02/11/2021 9:53:20 AM PST by 2big2fail
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To: bramps

Hahaaha...been a long time, for sure!


31 posted on 02/11/2021 11:01:11 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: mewzilla

It is also not ok to drive for miles of cones without seeing a single worker. They often make work zones entirely too long.


32 posted on 02/11/2021 11:04:14 AM PST by pas
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To: BobL

I agree with you. Clarity is essential.


33 posted on 02/11/2021 11:07:57 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

North of Lake Placid exit and South of Plattsburgh, hardly any traffic. They should up the speed limit to 75 there, not scar people with tickets.


34 posted on 02/11/2021 11:12:33 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
So its ok for construction works to dress like cops?

I guess so. Cross dressing is really big. Look at ANTIFA. wear a Trump hat and Waa-laa! They are Trump supporters!


35 posted on 02/11/2021 11:59:36 AM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (Sarcasm. It's my only natural defense against stupidity!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I have no problem with state troopers enforcing construction speed limits. The law is the law.

However, they should not violate laws in the process. As an engineer who has designed and permitted a number of road projects, I would wager that the attorneys in a class action lawsuit could have a little fun with the state troopers who dressed up as construction workers and the State Patrol management.

First all highway, especially interstate construction projects are governed by the Federal Dept of Transportation regulations, which are also usually adopted by State and local jurisdictions “as laws.” You know those State troopers and their managers must obey the laws.

As I was saying, all construction projects on interstates and most major roads require a traffic control plan, per federal & state laws. That plan must be very detailed. I have written several. Not only if the traffic control plan is not followed, people can be fined, companies can be fines and OSHA can come in and raise hell for unsafe work practices.

These plans are so detailed that they spell out where warning signs must be placed, where “buffer” vehicles may be placed, when and where traffic control people with slow, stop & warning signs must be placed. They also define zones where construction employee vehicles may be parked, where construction company vehicles may operate, the kinds of high visibility PPE that construction employees must wear, etc.

It would be enlightening to find out where the police with the radar guns were located and if that location was allowed in the traffic control plan. Similarly, where the State Trooper’s pursuit cars were located and if they were within the jurisdiction of the traffic control plan. I wonder if the Troopers had proper training required by the traffic control plan, it they were wearing all required PPE, like steel toes shoes, if they participated in daily “OSHA tailgate meetings prior to the start of Construction.”

I would wager that a little investigation on the part of a few class action attorneys could be the start of a very interesting OSHA claim and a slew of charges against the construction firm, the State trooper management, the State,and individual troopers over a variety of violations of various laws.

But the law is the law and ignorance of the law is no excuse. Perhaps a fancy out of court settlement with public apology to those ticketed, along with a declaration to never do that again could result.

Just some random thoughts.


36 posted on 02/11/2021 12:34:10 PM PST by Robert357
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To: real saxophonist
As long as they can dress as an Indian and a sailor, too.

I saw that!

37 posted on 02/11/2021 12:35:45 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: real saxophonist; dfwgator

You mean a Native American, don’t you? (/s, just to be sure.)


38 posted on 02/11/2021 12:38:10 PM PST by OKSooner (IT'S HOWDY DOODY TIME!! HI SENATOR LANKFORD!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My GADM wore out years ago. Saw so much insanity over my time driving long haul I can’t forget some of it.
All because people can’t slow down or wait their turn in construction areas.

Outside of Chicago I once saw a trucker have to lock the brakes and steer hard right to miss a car because two impatient cars dove into a one car space and brought everything to a sudden halt.
Unfortunately the rolls of steel on his flat bed didn’t get the memo. One broke free and slammed into the compact car that he swerved to miss. The three people inside never knew what killed them.

Saw a old battlewagon of a Buick slam into a church van. Buick driver and one rider in the van killed. It took six ambulances to carry the living to the hospital. Highway was closed for five hours until all body parts were accounted for.

Saw a construction worker smeared along a Jersey wall like so much strawberry jam.

Just three examples.

I’m fine with police dressing like construction workers to enforce work zone speed limits.
They also need to put some real teeth in the laws.
Speeding 5-9 mph or more? $1000 fine/loss of license for 30-60 days/community service along roadways.
Speeding 10-15 mph? $5000 fine/loss of license for 60-90 days/community service along roadways.
Speeding 15+mph? $10,000+ fine/loss of license for one year/30 days in the county cooler/community service along roadways.

I ain’t joking.


39 posted on 02/11/2021 1:34:29 PM PST by oldvirginian (The glass is half empty because the damned thing is cracked and leaking. The 2020 election is proof.)
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To: Robert357

I remember 30 or 40 years ago reading about a police officer dressed as a bum with a “wine bottle” in a paper bag on the side of the road. Except it wasn’t a wine bottle — it was a radar gun. He raised it up to “take a swig” and got your speed!

That one generated a lot of controversy.


40 posted on 02/11/2021 3:08:05 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Life is short, and work long, opportunity fleeting, experiments dangerous, and judgment hard)
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