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Report: Apple and Hyundai-Kia Close to Deal to Build Car in U.S.
Car and Driver ^ | 2-4-21 | ROBERTO BALDWIN

Posted on 02/03/2021 6:21:52 PM PST by dynachrome

The courtship between Apple and Hyundai's Kia to build an Apple car seems to be progressing nicely. According to a report by CNBC, the two companies are close to finalizing a deal that would have Kia building an electric, autonomous Apple vehicle at a Kia assembly plant in West Point, Georgia.

According to CNBC's sources, the deal hinges on Apple being in control of both the software and hardware of the vehicle. In other words, it would not be a Kia or Hyundai with Apple technology but would instead be an Apple vehicle that’s built by the Korean automaker in the United States under Apple’s direction

(Excerpt) Read more at caranddriver.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: apple; automotive; autos; hyundai; kia
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To: DannyTN

“Sorry, Dave, I cannot take you home. From what I read about you on FreeRepublic, I have to take you to Bedlam instead.”


21 posted on 02/03/2021 8:23:27 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Democracy Dies With Democrats)
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To: dynachrome

Autonomous autos otta be automatics.


22 posted on 02/03/2021 8:28:18 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Vermont Lt
Apple doesn’t really screw up.

If you are willing to go back to Lisa and Newton, the screw-ups abounded. Spindler & Amelio were disasters. How about Quickdraw QX, "Pink", Splitting up the small market share Macs into nearly identical product lines (Centrum?) as if it were GM? 90 day warranties on Quantum hard drives that dried out after 100 days (with Quantum honoring its warranties of 2 years with Apple)? The Mac SE fans that failed and didn't work very well anyway, compatibility issues on the Mac IIfx, incompatible slots between the Mac II (Nubus), Mac IIsi (PDS), forcing Lotus (Jazz) and Ashton-Tate (dBase Mac) to make CRAPPY software products that were incompatible at the file level with the Wintel counterparts, Mac SE (SE) and probably a couple more I don't remember, licensing the MacOS and then pulling it back, and a whole lot more. Mostly NOT on Jobs' watch.
23 posted on 02/03/2021 8:31:35 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: dynachrome

Gets great economy on the road. You can laugh at gas stations for hundreds of miles!

24 posted on 02/03/2021 8:46:24 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: Dr. Sivana

You screw up one launch....... ha ha.


25 posted on 02/03/2021 8:57:38 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We have entered "Insanity Week." Act accordingly.)
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To: dynachrome

What Kia brings to the party is an assembly line that makes car-size objects. Once Apple has this how far behind do you think flying cars and delivery drones are?

And it sets up a clash with Elon on two fronts. One is cars, but the second is internet. The natural competitor to Starlink is a car-sized box of electronics slung under an aerostat.

Sure, way out in the boonies the satellites are good. But where population density exceeds a certain value an earth-based system is less expensive.


26 posted on 02/03/2021 9:03:09 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: cpdiii

Recharging an electric vehicle in 5 minutes is impractical to the laws of physics. I remember reading a column called “Ask Hank, He Knows” in the old magazine, “Elementary Electronics,” January/February 1980 issue. Someone wrote in where he claims someone made an electric vehicle where it can go 300 miles, has a 40 hp motor and you can recharge it in 5 (or 15?) minutes or so. Hank wrote where if that was the case, your house would have huge, low gauge wiring and the amps to do that will be so huge that it would cook the battery (not good) and even “make it glow.”


27 posted on 02/03/2021 9:07:55 PM PST by MrLucky1966 (GOVT.SYS CORRUPTED! RUN GUN.COM? (Y/Y) GUN.COM NOT FOUND, EXECUTE BASEBALL.BAT? (Y/Y))
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To: EinNYC

28 posted on 02/03/2021 9:10:00 PM PST by MrLucky1966 (GOVT.SYS CORRUPTED! RUN GUN.COM? (Y/Y) GUN.COM NOT FOUND, EXECUTE BASEBALL.BAT? (Y/Y))
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To: dynachrome

Microsoft is coming out with a car, too.

If anything goes wrong you just close all the windows and open them back up again.


29 posted on 02/03/2021 9:21:27 PM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: dynachrome
From the article:
"The self-driving autonomous vehicle would be built without a driver's seat

Hmmm... What could possibly go wrong? Snicker...

30 posted on 02/03/2021 9:56:42 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Joe McCarthy now that we desperately need him sober?)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Apple has been berry, berry good to me as a shareowner, and I’ve been a Mac users since the SE, but I agree with you. Their products are hardly perfect. I had a recent generation Macbook Pro, and I hated it so much that I downgraded to a 2015 model. Hated the keyboard, hated the ginormous trackpad, hated that stupid touchbar, hated having no ports other than USB-C. Ugh.


31 posted on 02/03/2021 10:28:58 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: algore

Nissan Leaf battery pack weighs 700 lb and when new holds as much energy as THREE gallons of gas (weight 21 lb) and takes 11 hours to recharge at 220 volts. So you have the equivalent of a car that holds three gallons of gas and takes 11 hours to fill. Further it costs $8500 to replace the batteries when they deteriorate to the point of uselessness. NO THANKS. You’re welcome to waste your money on something like that I’ll stick with fossil fuel


32 posted on 02/03/2021 11:04:58 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Brookhaven

Their Genesis luxury/sport brand are supposed to be quite the car. Sharp looking too.


33 posted on 02/04/2021 3:36:04 AM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: from occupied ga

I think you just made all that stuff up.

the new nissan leaf has a range of 226 miles
and can charge up to 80% in 45 minutes

I can buy a nissan leaf battery pack at picknpull.com

600-5 Battery Hybrid/Electrical Car $153.99 $29.99

for about 200$ including tax and core deposit.

My friend just bought a hybrid rav4 that is getting 38+ mpg

that said I do not have an electric car and will be keeping my red barchetta for despite any motor laws

https://youtu.be/FAvQSkK8Z8U?t=4


34 posted on 02/04/2021 2:00:40 PM PST by algore
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To: algore

Try googling the cost of 2019 Nissan Leaf battery replacement and charging time. I think you made up your ‘facts’. Your battery cost is obvious bullsh!t. Either that or you don’t have a clue as to what type of battery to look up or you’re being disingenuous. I’m sure Nissan Leaf owners would like to know where to get an $8300 discount on replacement batteries. A lead acid starting battery for my Chevrolet is $140. if you have 440 volt service at your house you can cut the charging time way down, but almost no private homes have 440 volt service. I don’t have 440 v do you?


35 posted on 02/04/2021 5:53:36 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Steven Tyler

“Kia and Hyndai have had motor issues.”

We have owned 5 Hyundai vehicles and have one now with over 115,000 miles on it. Never a single “engine problem”.

Not one.

L


36 posted on 02/04/2021 5:57:07 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: from occupied ga

I am not trying to argue, but I took the charging time from the nissan website, yes it is at 440 and no i don’t have 440, but there are all kinds of charging stations near my house that do, and my former employer did as well.

My battery cost is not bs, I gave you the site picknpull.com and copied it directly from their price list.

granted this is a used battery, and you might have to swap some cells with yours to get a working pack but i dont have a problem doing stuff like that.

I just went to ebay and found one for a 2019. $499 or best offer with free shipping.

Every time I see one of these at picknpull I consider buying it to make an electric motorcycle, or more likely for an offgrid cabin.

(and yes I do have a red barchetta)

Unlike some on this board I do not make make stuff up.


37 posted on 02/04/2021 6:46:05 PM PST by algore
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To: from occupied ga

sorry it looks like the ebay one is a module from a battery, not a complete battery, But I have seen full batteries at picknpull on a frequent basis, I have seen volt batteries and other hybrid batteries as well.


38 posted on 02/04/2021 6:51:20 PM PST by algore
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To: adorno

Some years ago here on FR I suggested Apple could have bought Tesla for pocket change (for Apple that is) but not anymore since Tesla is at a ridiculous price these days.


39 posted on 02/04/2021 6:52:23 PM PST by xp38
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To: algore

Probably used batteries. Anything that seems too good to be true usually isn’t true


40 posted on 02/04/2021 7:44:03 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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