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To: Disestablishmentarian

The America we used to know is no more.

Maybe this was inevitable. 230 years as a constitutional republic, with lawmakers and executive branch elected by free citizens, and a criminal justice system supposedly indifferent to anything except laws and evidence ... was a nice long run.

It’s not that there is no law ... The Law is still a force in our society ... it’s just that now it has become a set of weapons to be wielded by whomsoever can get hold of them.

Maybe our world should now be thought of as competing syndicates of gangsters ... some of whom get control of the powers of government, others acting completely outside those forces.

This is not as cynical as it seems. A significant part of America’s history ... for example our entire frontier period as well as the post-Civil War era of the “Wild West” legends ... took place outside of the protections of Law and Order which we have grown to (perhaps naively) depend upon.

But now we have seen President Trump fight desperately and ultimately unsuccessfully to return the rule of law. He fired the top 30 or so officials of the FBI, and got absolutely no institutional changes in their behavior. He was able to seat 3 new SCOTUS Justices and got NOTHING.

So ... I think we have lost some very important illusions; however, that is not the end of America.

I am hoping that the consensus of the gangs in charge WILL NOT / CANNOT totally surrender our sovereignty ... and I would add to the super short list of important-to retain: our currency (including non-digital forms).

I am suggesting it is time for us to look forward, regardless of our preference for an America that is past.
We need to have huge discussions amongst the Trump people, the Q people, the deplorables of all stripes, the patriots and on-and-on about what is going to be our philosophy as Americans (and other freedom loving people) going forward.
We are going to have to let some aspects of the past go ... including some VERY GOOD ONES, like our old beliefs in “Fairness” of the criminal justice system. It’s time to recognize it for what it has become: RAW FORCE in the hands of those able to control it.

I think we need to somehow come together again psychologically. Of course, as a Christian, I believe the spiritual foundation is the bedrock under everything ... but I do not think God is going to turn the clock back to an earlier time ... perhaps to a past which never exactly existed as we perceive it in our memories.

I think we need to look forward, with eyes open.

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Some thoughts on your thoughts...Trump said the other day “I am not yet finished”. He did win the election, in a huge way. It was stolen, there is no doubt about it.

So what happens next? I see one of two options only:

1. Trump will be back in office after the mil do what Q said they would do - arrests that drain the swamp.

2. Civil war.

I do not see a third option.


907 posted on 01/31/2021 11:31:06 AM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: little jeremiah

if you caveat #2 as a [cold] civil war then #3 would be a hot civil war.


934 posted on 01/31/2021 12:27:00 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (If there be WAR in the offing, let it begin HERE. With ME.)
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To: little jeremiah; Disestablishmentarian

Trump — and, by extension, the American people — will be victorious. It will be glorious.

God wins.


1,386 posted on 02/01/2021 8:43:40 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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