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HCQ and Vaccines
January 29th, 2021 | vanity

Posted on 01/29/2021 8:37:50 AM PST by ChessExpert

I’m going to provide links to two video. I took each at face value to learn more about HCQ and vaccines. They are long videos, but well worth the time in my opinion.

The first is by Dr. Gold. She is a controversial figure, like President Trump and anyone who has a MAGA hat or reads and posts at websites such as Freerepublic. The controversy is the problem, not Dr. Gold.

Note that the AMA has rescinded their ban on HCQ. I take that as a tacit admission that Dr. Gold was right on HCQ and the AMA was wrong. Doctor Gold is a hero.

I probably found the video at Freerepublic. You may have seen it already. This video discusses HCQ and vaccines:

https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/the-stand-the-truth-about-the-covid-19-vaccine.html#fl-main-content

I obtained the second video as an investor. I assume it is new to FreeRepublic. In this video, a vaccine developer discusses vaccine development. The video is embedded after the first paragraph at the link provided below. It’s a long link and I hope it works. Here it is:

https://corporate.americancentury.com/content/corporate/en/insights/articles/news-insights/covid-19-vaccines-behind-science-replay.html?utm_campaign=brand_simr-covid-19-webcast_webcast-replay_gi_202101&utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0031I00000Sod7jQAB&utm_content=cta-watch-replay&partnerref=sfmc

Doctor Gold discusses the efficacy and safety of HCQ. I’m fully convinced. As an aside, virtually no one dies from the Wuhan virus in Taiwan, where they use HCQ.

Doctor Gold is concerned about a possible auto-immune response to the novel RNA based vaccines. She points out that this was tried in the past but led to deaths when ferrets used for the experiment were exposed to the actual virus.

Doctor Alvarado discusses warp speed development of vaccines. At about 18 minutes into the video he provides the following information:

RNA vaccines: Moderna Biontech (Pfizer)

Adenovirus vaccines: AstraZeneca Johnson & Johnson

Spike Protein vaccines: Novavax

There is a challenge trial in UK with the AstraZeneca (Adenovirus) vaccine. A challenge trial exposes vaccinated individuals to the actual virus. (Chessexpert [me]): If there is an auto-immune or any other problem, it should become apparent.)

He is most excited about the first two products, the RNA-based solutions. He admits that they are novel, but he thinks they have great promise now and in the future.

Frankly, Dr. Alvarado is a greater expert on vaccines than Dr. Gold. This is how he makes his living. With expertise comes a conflict of interest, as is often the case.

We are talking about perceived risk, something that will likely change over time. At the moment, I would prefer the more traditional vaccines over the RNA vaccines. Assuming the challenge trial AstraZeneca has a favorable outcome, that would probably be my vaccine choice.

If it remains strictly up to me, I would prefer to defer vaccination as I have HCQ on hand.

I ordered HCQ at: https://okdrugstore.COM/catalog/Other/Plaquenil.htm


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: drgold; hcq; vaccine
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1 posted on 01/29/2021 8:37:50 AM PST by ChessExpert
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To: ChessExpert

now with better (?) links:

Dr Gold:

https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/the-stand-the-truth-about-the-covid-19-vaccine.html#fl-main-content

I obtained the second video as an investor:

https://corporate.americancentury.com/content/corporate/en/insights/articles/news-insights/covid-19-vaccines-behind-science-replay.html?utm_campaign=brand_simr-covid-19-webcast_webcast-replay_gi_202101&utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0031I00000Sod7jQAB&utm_content=cta-watch-replay&partnerref=sfmc


2 posted on 01/29/2021 8:40:36 AM PST by ChessExpert (Viruses are too small to be stopped by our porous masks.)
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To: ChessExpert

You might want to consider Ivermectin instead. Apparently it is even more efficient against Covid-19 than HCQ.

You might want to read up on it here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3916054/posts

and here:

https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)32506-6/fulltext


3 posted on 01/29/2021 8:42:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ChessExpert
For me, its easy. Been taking HCQ for decades to treat malaria. My body is used to it and so far, its kept me from being infected by coronavirus.
I don't have any interest in some rushed to the market vaccine, which has been highly politicized and which is going to make Fauci, Gates and the Dems rich and has moreover resulted in the deaths of hundreds who took it.
Naturally everyone has to do what they thing is right for them.
4 posted on 01/29/2021 8:46:20 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: ChessExpert

ivermectin works better and works when you are really sick, order online at happy family pharm dot com, or you could always use the horsepaste from the feed store. ZInc+Quercetin provides near identical protection as HCQ and zinc, not as well, but close and it is Over the Counter


5 posted on 01/29/2021 8:46:57 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

I’ve been taking Q and Z daily for 8-9 months. When you say close to HCL and Z....any idea how close?


6 posted on 01/29/2021 8:56:55 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: sanjuanbob

Not hydrochloric acid


7 posted on 01/29/2021 9:04:05 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: ChessExpert

“ Note that the AMA has rescinded their ban on HCQ.”

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I’ll look at the rest you posit later, but that statement is not true:

The AMA did not pass that resolution which would have opened the door to doctors prescribing its use as prophylaxis or, for that matter, as a post-infection treatment, as they do for both in India.


8 posted on 01/29/2021 9:12:07 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SmokingJoe

How do you get HCQ? How do you use it?


9 posted on 01/29/2021 9:27:30 AM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ )
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To: BykrBayb

Its in the OP.


10 posted on 01/29/2021 9:28:42 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: ChessExpert

FWIW, the ‘lethality’ of HCL has been nothing but exaggerated fear porn designed to discredit Donald Trump. When I served in Korea in the early seventies, HCL was prescribed for malaria. There was a quart size bottle on every table in the mess hall with instructions ordering all soldiers to take a certain amount of HCL per week. I spent a year there and I can’t recall a single instance of a soldier taking HCL and then collapsing in the mess hall.

I’ve even had some tell me that my report was only anecdotal and unimportant compared to what the media reported.


11 posted on 01/29/2021 9:29:53 AM PST by DugwayDuke (We deeply regret any inconveniences cause by the pandemic.)
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To: SmokingJoe; ChessExpert

I don’t see anything in the original post that tells where and how to acquire HCQ, or how to use it. Would one of you please copy and paste that portion for me?


12 posted on 01/29/2021 9:35:22 AM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ )
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To: eyeamok; ChessExpert

Question to ChessExpert — you say you ordered from that site, but have you received your order? That looks remarkably like the ‘happy family’ scam site eyeamok referenced.

You can obtain a legitimate scrip from a doctor on this list, linked by the FLCCC guys: https://www.exstnc.com/


13 posted on 01/29/2021 9:42:04 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: SmokingJoe; ChessExpert

I see it now. Never mind.


14 posted on 01/29/2021 9:51:29 AM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ )
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To: BykrBayb

Last two sentences in the OP


15 posted on 01/29/2021 9:57:49 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: logi_cal869

What am I missing? This what I have:

“Memo to:
Delegates, Alternate Delegates
Executive Directors, Member Organizations of the House of Delegates
From:
Bruce A. Scott, MD, Speaker, House of Delegates
Lisa Bohman Egbert, MD, Vice Speaker, House of Delegates
Date:
October 30, 2020
Subject:
Handbook Addendum - Supplemental Business and Information”

Jumping to pg 18:

“Resolution: 509 (November 2020)
Page 3 of 6

1 Whereas, The COVID-19 pandemic is a serious medical issue, people are dying, and
2 physicians must be able to perform as sagacious prescribers; therefore be it
3
4 RESOLVED, That our American Medical Association rescind its statement calling for physicians
5 to stop prescribing hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine until sufficient evidence becomes
6 available to conclusively illustrate that the harm associated with use outweighs benefit early in
7 the disease course. Implying that such treatment is inappropriate contradicts AMA Policy
8 H-120.988, “Patient Access to Treatments Prescribed by Their Physicians,” that addresses off
9 label prescriptions as appropriate in the judgement of the prescribing physician (Directive to
10 Take Action); and be it further”

There is more. When I copy and paste the line numbers come out wrong, requiring tedious editing on my part. The header information above should provide enough information for you to search for the original link.


16 posted on 01/29/2021 10:00:02 AM PST by ChessExpert (Viruses are too small to be stopped by our porous masks.)
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To: absalom01

I had the same question. I ordered from that site. I had to pay for rapid shipment. They shipped it rapidly, but US customs sat on it for at least a week.


17 posted on 01/29/2021 10:02:09 AM PST by ChessExpert (Viruses are too small to be stopped by our porous masks.)
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To: ChessExpert

Good to know!

I had bought some Durvet at the tack and feed store a while back, but was not looking forward to trying to compound it into 15mg doses for a 200# human, as opposed to a 1,100 pound horse.


18 posted on 01/29/2021 10:07:08 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: ChessExpert

The original document can be found here:

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-10/nov20-handbook-addendum.pdf

As far as I can tell from this link, the resolution was adopted. However, it seems that was a recommendation, later turned down:

https://www.publishedreporter.com/2020/12/11/american-medical-association-rescinds-previous-statement-against-prescription-of-hydroxychloroquine-to-covid-19-patients/

It seems the AMA is continuing its ban on HCQ. This stinks to high heaven. It is not medically correct. It remains politically correct. It is also financially correct as big Med will make billions with vaccines, versus next to nothing with HCQ.


19 posted on 01/29/2021 11:11:10 AM PST by ChessExpert (Viruses are too small to be stopped by our porous masks.)
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To: absalom01

It is recommended to empty entire syringe and use some type of coloring agent (food dye?) to mix the product. Someone said the product in the existing syringe is not uniformly mixed.
Just saying.


20 posted on 01/29/2021 11:40:44 AM PST by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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