Posted on 01/20/2021 4:29:44 PM PST by Nascar Dad
So I have been duped by Conservatives and Q Followers alike. Trump was supposed to be soooooo close to dropping info to prove Biden stole the election. What happened? Biden is now our president. Nothing on Horowitz. Nothing on Durham. Nothing on Declass. Nothing on stolen elections. Trump packed it up, split town and left us with Biden. Brilliant! It feels like I've been punched in the gut. I'm sure there are others out there that feel the same way. I listened, and bought into, the BS about saving the world... Yadda Yadda Yadda. I am done. I believed the hype and have nobody to blame but myself. That is all. It was fun while it lasted.
None of us are happy but I don’t want to invest so much in politics that my world is going to collapse because the dims won.
Donald Trump is an offensive man. He has contempt for his marriage vows, for the rights of women near him not to be subject to his predatory behavior, for the truth, and for the reasons why America has been a great nation. He exerted his rich-man influence to dodge the Vietnam draft. He is an egomaniac, and everything during his time as president was subordinated to his egotism. He believes the way to get things done is to insult those who are against him rather than accept his power as POTUS was limited, and therefore he should not go off half-cocked. Still, when one makes these claims, Freepers who have already drunk the Kool-Aid say “No, because TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!” Donald Trump is just a man, and personally not a very impressive man at that. He is not a god. He is as flawed as the rest of us.
Still, he had some strong views, which he advocated in office.The most obvious was illegal immigration, where he shattered the bipartisan consensus in his inimitable style. (Anyone remember how futile Tom Tancredo’s White House campaign was?) His SCOTUS appointments are light years better than Mrs. Clinton’s would have been.
Still, there are many Americans who are absolutely revolted by Mr. Trump’s conduct, including but not limited to while in office. Freepers, and especially Q fans, may not see it, but it is true just the same.
In 2020 he threaded the electoral-college needle, but in 2020 it just wasn’t there.
Many Americans who are not die-hard Trump fanatics were repulsed by what happened on January 6. So the left will hang this around the neck of conservatism for as long as they can get away with it.
And speaking of the Trump! cult, to place any stock whatsoever in what some anonymous Internet dweeb named Q! says is just not rational. I have been here long enough to remember 1998, the Clinton impeachment year, when a Freeper named quidam (whose account is still active, BTW), got Freepers all hot and bothered by sending out similarly cryptic messages indicating Bill Clinton was going to be removed from office.
Who was responsible for the Q lunacy? Perhaps we will never know. But it is incumbent on all conservatives to always ask, even if the future of someone they (unreasonably, IMHO) adore is at stake, to ask whether, given thousands of years of human history, a claim about what is going to happen is reasonable.
Persuading people that the conservative POV is the correct one is essential. Right now, given the way the country is (and it is that way, like it or not) this is hard work. This all the more true if so many Americans see the avatar of conservatism, Donald J. Trump, as a fundamentally repugnant man. A certain sort of Freeper may be incapable of processing this. But the country is what it is. And whining for two months before encouraging people to go down to the Capitol and do what is necessary (and breaking one’s promise to march down with them, which Trump! in his typically cowardly way did in his address on Jan. 6) is not going to persuade the country as it is that the claims of Donald J. Trump, despite the recorded vote totals and refusal of over 50 courts nationwide to acknowledge that that any objection to this is not meritless, that the election was “stolen” deserve any respect. Americans judge the credibility of claims like this by what the courts say, and on that score Mr, Trump’s batting average is .000. The certainty that people have that Trump! is right because of videos they saw on the internet and the testimony of some people who have some knowledge of statistics (and Sydney Powell and other crackpots) is just not enough.
Conservatives from now on need to do better than this. This is the country we live in, deal with it..
I expect, but am not certain, that I won’t get banned for this.
Trump lost when the courts refused to step in.
IMHO, He had the evidence but no court would hear it. Lawsuits dismissed, not on merit but for nonsense reasons.
Picking the right AG and draining the swamp (especially the f.i.b) would have changed our fortunes incredibly. Most of those who advised Trump absolutely sucked! Overall, filling the administration was a enormous Trump fail because most were traitors, cowards, swamp scum and incompetents.
Can’t pass and change laws when you got the likes of Ryan and McConnell stabbing you in the back at every turn.
The swamp was dug in, and fighting against Trump right away.
When Trump fired Comey, which he had the absolute right to do, the swamp was up in arms, claiming “obstruction of justice” and threatening impeachment even then.
If Trump had 20/20 foresight in 2017, and fired all the crooks on the FBI, they would have crucified him.
Obama spent 8 years putting his people in key places in the swamp. Now the lefties are going to purge the Trump supporters, and put even more lefties in.
The swamp will be even harder to drain.
No treasure trove of declassified documents released. The deepstate was even able to prevent that.
Give it a few days. He won’t leave us hanging.
Go f yourself you sound like a Jeb! supporter....blah blah repugnant crap.
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I feel very stupid. i worked a full time job to pay for my college while now loan debt will be forgiven and college free. I have had a paying job since 14 only to witness people get welfare who have never worked a day in their lives. I started my own business 15 years ago only to watch it slammed shut by a tyrant governor. I paid taxes just to watch the funds be given to people who illegally entered the country. I saved money just to watch it vaporize with .01% interest rates and used it up to keep the business going while Pakistani trannies get fortunes. Hard work is for chumps. What’s the point? There isn’t one. I’m signing up for every bit of welfare and living on easy street.
“ People. You all need to stop attacking other people on free republic!
Learn to communicate. We’re not organized when we’re not truly listening to one another.”
What are you? The boss?
Pick a different thread
Read the title.
Calling patriots stupid on such a day
That’s a shill.
In the end Schumer was right...if you ef with the IC they have 6 ways from Sunday to get you. No doubt every member of the Trump family was threatened if he didn’t pack up and leave town.
2. Then there are those who create a false premise in order to gain control of the opposition to move in the direction desired. Like a law enforcement sting operation.
So it appears that both have occurred and maybe many other ‘operations’. So now the goal is not to lose hope, that is what the other side wants, crush your soul. Instead keep hope alive but as Ronald Reagan said ‘Trust but verify’.
Sidney pointed out, correctly, that her reputation was on the line.
What is her reputation now? Serious question, I really do not know. I expected jury trials that never happened.
Thank you for your post👍
We’re smarter than them, have the truth on our side and outnumber them massively. We’ll figure this out.
Republic.?? (snort).. If there is ONE thing that Trump did for us, it was to show us that the rule of law is DEAD..!! That means, NO MORE REPUBLIC..!!
Why, what we have now is a country ruled by the majority don't you know.... Enjoy the suck... :(
If we place all our trust in one well-intentioned, however limited man, we are all the more to blame. There is no perfect man on earth we can call savior, although it sounds like Dubya proclaimed someone that today.
What could he have done? I don’t believe the military was totally behind him, even though he treated them much better than Obama or Obiden.
However, one can only place true trust in our Lord Jesus Christ and Him, alone.
We’ve misplaced our trust and instead of praying and humbling ourselves before God, we’ve clung to every word out of someone else’s mouth, but His. We should’ve been on our knees before God and repented that we’ve not done more to stop abortion, the very sin that God judged Israel and Judah for and with only brief stints in the land, have been exiled all over the world. This is the one sin that crosses God’s red line. Judgment doesn’t come at that very moment, but it comes! I hope this isn’t it for us! I pray for His mercy & grace, if it is.
Instead of boohooing, let’s be the shining light on a hill that God wants us to be. Life is not about us, after all. I’ve been angry about the outcome, living in GA, I’m totally hacked about the election of 2 democrat senators, but after the stolen election, I think republican voters stayed home and said, “What’s the use? They’ll take this from us anyway!” We’re going to have to trust God now and pray for one another as we go through this nightmare together. We may not even be able to communicate well, but let’s not rile each other up for senseless talk and useless anger. Put the anger to a good purpose and let’s find a way forward and continue to work for real conservatism, and it would probably be best if we quit the Republican Party and let them sink into oblivion!
That ship sailed at noon today.
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