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1 posted on 01/19/2021 8:51:56 AM PST by Red Badger
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First They Came for the Muscle Cars .....

It won't be long before you'll play hell to find a gasoline powered car.

2 posted on 01/19/2021 8:53:38 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction". It is dying on Our Watch.)
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In terms of performance, the new electric cars can blow them away.....

Without the noise......

Ducking now.........


3 posted on 01/19/2021 8:55:49 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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Some muscle was earlier but maybe pricier. ‘61 Pontiac Catalina 389x3x2? 63 Sprint 289 4 spd. ‘61 Starliner 406 2x4. The first muscle I saw when my dad got transferred back to the states from England was in my mom’s podunk hometown in the hills of PA. At the local ford dealer a 63 1/2 blacked out fast back 427 galaxie with a dual quad 4 spd beast. Drooling....................... Of course the Chevy 409 cars as well. Dodge cross ram 413s then 426 wedges then hemis. Ah, the good old days.


6 posted on 01/19/2021 8:59:34 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from the inside? Check! WTH? Screwed, blued and tatooed. Enlisted USN 1967.)
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“We must get the riffraff out of their cars, do they think they have real money? They could end up anywhere we are unannounced and uninvited!” - the mindset of a limousine leftist


8 posted on 01/19/2021 9:00:16 AM PST by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns is are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic)
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The goal is to remove the “fun” of driving and get us into mass transit and coal-burning electrics. Yes; coal burning.


10 posted on 01/19/2021 9:01:11 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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High car prices is what will kill car production.

I saw a chart recently. In 1974 the average new car cost 1/4 of the average median income. Now a new car cost 100% of the average median income.

We are heading to self driving cars that will be out at front of your house in the morning, pick you up, drop you off then go to the next customer.


13 posted on 01/19/2021 9:04:36 AM PST by setter
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I think there’s a song about this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U


16 posted on 01/19/2021 9:04:57 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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They came up with a way to put a stop to the fun.

First, they made insuring a muscle car unaffordable.

I'm sure it wasn't all of those 'coming of age' baby boomers wrapping their GTOs around trees that had any effect on insurance rates.

17 posted on 01/19/2021 9:05:03 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Where are all the electric cars going to get the electricity to charge them? You see any new transmission lines being built? You see any new power plants being built?


19 posted on 01/19/2021 9:06:27 AM PST by RideForever (wit)
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No problem, those backstabbing scum that rid the world of muscle cars will soon rid the world of Civilization, but they will never rid the world of thermonuclear weapons, chemical weapons and biological weapons.


25 posted on 01/19/2021 9:10:50 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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Watched the Mecum Kissimmee Auction over the Weekend.

The prices paid for Restored Muscle Cars and Restomods were through the roof. People spending their Stock Market gains no doubt.


27 posted on 01/19/2021 9:11:43 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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I have a 2016 2-door VW GTI with the electronically controlled mechanical differential. My car is faster than most of the muscle cars of that era, can get 30+ mph if driven normally and because of it’s impact resistance is only moderately expensive to insure. It can out-brake and out corner most of the muscle cars of that era. It looks like an economy hatchback so it flies under the radar of most of the police.

Where there is a will there is a way. Adaptation is the way of the universe...


36 posted on 01/19/2021 9:25:34 AM PST by MichaelRDanger
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If you look at the sales brochures from cars in the 60’s you had a huge selection of engine choices and the cars all looked different.

Now, you are lucky to have two engine choices and the cars all look the same. Everything has been standardized mostly due to government regulations. Todays cars are faster and better handling but they all look the same like a bar of soap. Who cares?

It is headed that ways in all products. Fewer choices with 1limited options established by the political class.

They are moving the same way in the news and social networks. Only one narrative supported by a selected event with all other viewpoints labeled unsubstantiated and/or hateful.

Even churches have gone that way, God loves everyone and don’t feel bad because we all sin. Any inconvenient verses are wordsmithed away like a Surpreme Court decision on the constitution.

Sorry, if I am a little pessimistic.


41 posted on 01/19/2021 9:33:25 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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My dream car is a Lead Sled 49-51 Chopped, Channeled Merc. Probably not too many Freepers are that old to remember.


44 posted on 01/19/2021 9:38:48 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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Won’t see any Ford Focus car shows that’s for sure.


47 posted on 01/19/2021 9:43:57 AM PST by SkyDancer (Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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The Control Freaks won’t be happy until we’re all riding busses or trains with cameras everywhere. Reading Pravda, singing praises to the govern about their latest wonder.

“Comrade! Did you see the NYT article about the wonderful new employment plan?”

“Da! Have it right here, comrade. Our benevolent government is so wonderful!”


63 posted on 01/19/2021 9:53:09 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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“They came up with a way to put a stop to the fun.

First, they made insuring a muscle car unaffordable. Then as now, it didn’t matter whether you – the specific individual – had ever wrecked your muscle car. All that mattered, premium-wise, was that someone else did.

You got the presumptive blame – and the actual bill.”


The car companies were not stupid - they saw this threat to their bottom line and took countermeasures. The biggest one was to underrate the HP of cars. The big line in the sand was 10 pounds/HP. Go under that, and your insurance premium exploded. Take the GTO (I had one, my father’s ‘69 - and damn do I miss it!): It was about a 3700 lb. car, and the standard engine was 350 HP. In ‘69 and ‘70, the next upgrade was the Ram Air III, rated at 366 HP. Funny, why would people pay several hundred dollars for 16 more horses? Oh, the next upgrade was the Ram Air IV, rated at 370 HP (also for another few hundred bucks). For 4 more HP? Yeah, not really. There was an article (which I cannot find for the life of me) in Popular Hot Rodding in the 1980s that analyzed muscle car HP in light of the weight of the cars, their gearing and their quarter mile times. That Ram Air IV engine was not 370 HP, but 410. But they didn’t lie: they just took the rating at 5500 RPM...but if you took it at, say, 6000 RPM, it was 410.

Ditto for the 2nd generation Chrysler Hemi engine. 426 cubic inches of dual quad, hemispherical combustion chambered goodness! Rated at 425 HP and 490 ft. lbs. of torque when it debuted in 1966, it was improved each and every year until it died in 1971...with not a single extra HP being added to its rating.

BTW, Pontiac engineers who were a bit ticked off that their invention, the GTO, was no longer top of the heap in performance devised the Ram Air V engine. Due to the equivalent of RINOs in GM management, it never saw a sale to the general public for use on the road, but was incredibly effective in drag racing. It was to be rated at 375 HP but, in reality, had over 500 gross HP! Note that the patents are all expired on this engine, and several companies make improved versions of this magnificent engine right now - and it is one of my bucket list items to buy a ‘69 GTO and do a resto-mod with a Ram Air V engine under the hood.


88 posted on 01/19/2021 10:15:51 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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They don’t write songs about Volvos.


89 posted on 01/19/2021 10:21:31 AM PST by dainbramaged (Windage and Elevation)
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They’ll get my 327, 4 speed, 1957 Chevy, when they pry it from my cold dead hands.


102 posted on 01/19/2021 10:55:18 AM PST by Fireone (Build the gallows first, then the Wall!)
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There’s a heavily modded Dodge Challenger that lives at a house in my neighborhood, sharing the driveway with a full size pickup.

During the “election”, the house was plastered with Byedung signs.

I wonder if the owner of those vehicles has a clue as to what the dems are going to do? Does he really think the “election” was only about getting rid of Trump?


103 posted on 01/19/2021 10:59:56 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Joe Biden: The best president money can buy.)
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