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A question for a realtor or investor
1/16/2021 | thescourged1

Posted on 01/16/2021 1:01:27 PM PST by thescourged1

The question I have is: Is now a good or bad time to get invested in residential property? At first glance, it looks bad given what we are about to experience starting January 20th. However, with property getting snatched up sight-unseen by those fleeing the cities for way more than it's worth, supply will dry up fast.

With the dollar reaching it's day of reckoning, and with interest rates likely to go up, I'm feeling a sense of urgency on this. Freepers are always a great resource of knowledge and wit, and I'd like some informed opinions if any care to share.


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KEYWORDS: realestate; vanity
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To: exnavy
Buying is always better than renting.

So a renter who bought in 2007 at the top for $300k, and then had a house worth $200k in 2010, why was that better?

41 posted on 01/16/2021 2:00:12 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: thescourged1

The answer is dependent on where you are. In an area with declin8ng population, outwards migration, nope. In Texas, Florida, North Carolina, DC suburbs, yep.


42 posted on 01/16/2021 2:01:45 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: BiglyCommentary

Don’t be foolish.


43 posted on 01/16/2021 2:04:30 PM PST by exnavy
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To: exnavy

Yes, it’s so foolish to consider where you are in a market cycle. That’s extremely foolish. /sarc

What is foolish to to put out simpleminded, trite slogans for what is an investment decision that has lots variables and factors.


44 posted on 01/16/2021 2:10:01 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary

If you didn’t like my comment it’s ok. Just ignore me, i will do the same for you.


45 posted on 01/16/2021 2:11:38 PM PST by exnavy
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To: thescourged1

Oh, my! There are 2 diametrically opposed opinions out there. One says that we are going to have massive inflation, so it’s a good time to have debt at low interest. Another says that there is going to be a giant crash and depression, massive foreclosures, and the value of housing will plummet. Good look knowing the answer. I guess what I would say is if you like the place, you think you will live there for at least 5 to 7 years, your job is safe (as much as you can figure!), and the area seems to be getting better with no warning signs that the area might be starting to decline, then go for it. You might put together a check list with the pros and cons on buying vs renting. My own experience is that buying ended up costing a lot. Maintenance is always more than one expects.

However, as Yogi Berra said, “Predictions are hard, especially about the future.”


46 posted on 01/16/2021 2:15:52 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (We Must All Hang Together, or Most Assuredly, We Will All Hang Separately ~ Benjamin Franklin)
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To: thescourged1
This is a "How long is a piece of string" question. But here are some guidelines:
1. As always location, location, location.
2. If you are thinking long term the public pension deficits of some states make them absolute no-no's. Do not buy in New Jersey, Illinois, Kentucky, Connecticut or Colorado. Missouri is in the middle.
3. Does the property have/will soon have, fiber optic internet, this has become very important in the last couple of years.
4. Will the property appraise if you intend to finance the purchase. Go on Realtor.com/Zillow.com/Trulia to see what similar properties are selling for.
5. Generally speaking inventory is very low in the better states to live in. Builders are very cautious about letting their inventory get ahead of the market. Those that survived 2007/8 are not building spec unless the inventory in their area is very low.
6. Run your numbers on an after tax basis Renting v's Owning
7. Ask the landlord if he will pay a Buyer Broker fee.
8. Interest rates are artificially low, they will go up in the medium term which will dry up a lot of the demand but inflation will hit pretty soon.

Good luck

47 posted on 01/16/2021 2:18:15 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: exnavy
No it isn't. Owning is frequently better then renting but a house can be a boat anchor and buying is almost always riskier than renting. I wouldn't advise a young person to buy.
48 posted on 01/16/2021 2:18:49 PM PST by RC one (Lying, cheating, deceiving & manipulating are as natural to Democrats as swimming is to fish.)
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To: thescourged1

I you cannot evict, do you really want to try it?


49 posted on 01/16/2021 2:18:59 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Freeman1969; thescourged1

Freeman has given you the best advice so far. I’m a successful residential renovator (fix n flips) in Denver (second biggest sellers’ market) and would love to share advice, but we really need to know your long or short term strategy per “buy and hold” (rental), a personal holding you’ll live in, or quick flip. If I were to buy a rental, I’d look at cities in Ohio, Alabama, Arkansas, and Texas. Here in Colorado, the current secret hot spots are Pueblo, Conifer, and Bailey for future growth. Per Phoenix, Freeman might agree that SW Phoenix is going to explode with growth. Also, one good strategy might be to search Craigslist for Wholesalers. They hold contracts on properties that are fixers and/or have very motivated sellers (people in financial, personal, or job related stress). The only drawback is that you must move swiftly on such deals and have your financing in place, and with a lender who is willing to let you take on a fixer. However, many fixers are only cosmetic. No matter what, they will be below market deals! I can help you analyze and acquire any property in any market by showing you the open source online tools that I use, but the key is knowing your exit strategy.


50 posted on 01/16/2021 2:21:45 PM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: thescourged1

I’m thinking of retiring to Missouri. How are the real estate values? Is weather a beyotch? Conservative neighbors? Pretty places to go and see and campout?


51 posted on 01/16/2021 2:22:09 PM PST by Kevmo (I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: exnavy

If you don’t want anyone to comment on your posts, maybe try a forum where you are the only one there.


52 posted on 01/16/2021 2:24:03 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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anywhere people are fleeing to from NYC and other leftist fascist covid cities are seeing residential housing prices going through the roof ..


53 posted on 01/16/2021 2:24:52 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: thescourged1

Read later.


54 posted on 01/16/2021 2:31:03 PM PST by NetAddicted (OwJust looking)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

You are absolutely right. SW Phoenix is exploding along with outlier towns like Maricopa and Florence. You are also right in that you have to choose your markets for rentals carefully as well. What we are seeing in Phoenix is that prices are appreciating so quickly that it is difficult to find a property that can be purchased at a price point that makes sense ROI wise. It has gotten to the point that in some areas rents are not able to keep up with appreciating sales prices because the appreciation increases are outstripping increases in wages.


55 posted on 01/16/2021 2:31:16 PM PST by Freeman1969 (The Republicans are the Washington Generals of Politics. They show up and play but never win.)
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To: thescourged1

Read later.


56 posted on 01/16/2021 2:31:51 PM PST by NetAddicted (OwJust looking)
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To: RC one

Giving away money for nothing is better than buying something tangible? I am assuming the person asking the question can find a realtor capable of doing a good deal.


57 posted on 01/16/2021 2:40:17 PM PST by exnavy
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To: thescourged1

Hahaha - renters don’t have to make payments - you make the call


58 posted on 01/16/2021 2:44:38 PM PST by 11th_VA (Et Tu Fox News ?)
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To: thescourged1

bump


59 posted on 01/16/2021 3:04:58 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Laughter separates us from despair and gives us a chance at love. --Craig Ferguson)
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To: BiglyCommentary

“So a renter who bought in 2007 at the top for $300k, and then had a house worth $200k in 2010, why was that better?”


And would now probably be worth $500,000.00

Buying is always better.

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60 posted on 01/16/2021 3:09:45 PM PST by Mears
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