Posted on 01/11/2021 9:54:16 AM PST by Hostage
The Librem 5 comes with PureOS by default. This page explains why that is important.
An operating system in your best interests The Librem 5 comes with PureOS by default, not Android. It is the only smartphone on the market today to ship with a fully-free and auditable operating system, from the ground up, that is created in your best interest instead of corporations’ bottom lines. It is the only project with a bona fide community instead of a “Big Corp” governance model.
That doesn’t mean the Librem 5 is “locked in” to PureOS, however! If you are a technology enthusiast or enterprise with special needs, you can run your own compatible GNU/Linux operating system as an alternative to PureOS. It’s your hardware.
(Excerpt) Read more at puri.sm ...
I might go with a Pinephone when I’m ready to upgrade.
I was involved in the Pine kickstarter campaign when they first came out with a tiny single-board computer. Used it as my primary media player for quite a while.
I like my windows phone.
Confusing page but I gather industry is phasing out 2G/3G.
They have a $799 version. The Librem 5 USA is $1999 because every component is made in the USA and it also has special features like hardware kill switches to turn things off, for paranoid people.
Pine64 phones are $149 and $199 but they are considered to be in Alpha mode. The phones are community edition because they need the community to test drive them and give feedback so they can make it to Beta mode and eventually a final product.
GrapheneOS is Linux based and unlike the above, is compatible with Android apps. They don’t make phones and the OS will only run on the Pixel line of phones, versions 3, 3XL, 4 and 4XL. Pixel is up to version 5. There are people selling Pixel phones on ebay with GrapheneOS pre-installed for $3-700. Pixel 3/3XL were made in 2018, 4/4XL in 2019 and discontinued in late 2020 so neither are ancient. Pixel 3 didn’t do well in sales which is why they moved on to 4 so quick.
Even the Pixel 3 has decent specs, 2.5GHz processor; 4gb RAM; 64 or 128 Storage space. The Pixel 4 specs are right up there with my laptop.
Only two Pixel 4s on ebay right now. One’s $700 and the other $500 but that seller has zero feedback. Newbie.
The downside. Pixel phones are made for and sold by google. Buying one used, you’re not contributing much to google. The Pixel 4 is still available new from google or amazon but we don’t want to support either. Plenty of used, unlocked(not tied into a carrier) for $200 and if you’re techie enough, you can install GrapheneOS yourself. Have to use a phone with straight Android, no carrier software aka unlocked.
Here’s install instructions; https://grapheneos.org/install
Gotta be comfortable at the command line. I’m fairly comfortable with it but would probably still buy one from ebay with the OS pre-installed. I’d hate to pay $200 for a phone and then brick it.
So aside from being a google product, it’s the most normal phone you can get which is Linux based, open source, runs Android apps and would be degoogled. Buy a used unlocked one and install GrapheneOS or buy a used one with the OS already on it and thumb your nose at google. You can just search ebay for grapheneos and that will bring up nothing but Pixel phones.
Motorola was sold by google to the Chinese. All Motorola phone are now Chinese spy phones.
There's been so much in-breeding in the *NIX world since Torvalds created Linux (as a fork [derivative] of UNIX) that the differences often are very subtle and indistinct so now they're all in general referred to as "UNIX-Like." So now that covers UNIX, Linux, Android, OSX. and a bunch of others.
And like all 'true' Linux, Android is open-source. Its kernel is covered by the GNU (say: Guh-Noo) General Purpose Licensing agreement (GNU GPL), which lets anybody do anything they want to with it, provided they give credit to whoever they stole it from.
It's been several years since I've had a smartphone with Android on it because I started replacing the factory Android with a fork called CyanogenMod, which by design has been stripped of all the G**gle spyware and comes "rooted" by default. Four years ago a corporate kerfuffle caused CyanogenMod to be re-named LineageOS (LOS), and they currently make LOS ROMS for 109 different smartphone models.
I recently bought an LG Classic fliphone (for $30 @WW) running an Android Open-Source Project (AOSP) ROM as a cheap back-up phone. The LineageOS ROM isn't available (as a rule) for low-end phones, and I didn't want to invest the time on an occasional-use phone in switching to LOS anyway, so imagine my delight when I discovered that LG was selling cheap phones running (G**gle-free) AOSP.
Anyhow, good luck to PureOS. The added competition can only improve the breed in general but LineageOS has been creating G**gle-free ROMs for Android phones since 2009 (currently approaching 2 million active users), so they've got some catching up to do.
Maybe Android is not part of the conspiracy but isn’t it controlled by Google?
For sure Google Play Store is a conspirator as they’re already involved in removing Parler.
If Android is benign, how can people bypass Google Play Store and find/download Apps?
need the critical apps but i hope this takes off.
So what don’t the Chinese own?
They can spy all they want on my phone. It seldom if ever leaves the house and isn’t on all the time either.
“So what donâÂÂt the Chinese own?”
Good point.
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