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What was the worst 2020 crisis? Covid or The Steal? (Vanity)

Posted on 01/01/2021 7:52:40 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

Will 2021 be a better year than 2020? We shall see. But the question I’m leaving open for discussion is this:

Which was worse? Covid or The Steal?


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To: hawkaw

So some excess deaths occurred. How does that compare to the end of the USA and the beacon of liberty in the world?


41 posted on 01/01/2021 8:52:35 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: Responsibility2nd

the steal.
The COVID was our version of the Hong Kong Flu in the late 60’s.
The steal means we are denied our vote.


42 posted on 01/01/2021 9:00:08 AM PST by ronniesgal ( no fool like an old fool!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Steal.

COVID is not the threat to our safety and freedom that stealing the election is going to turn out to be.


43 posted on 01/01/2021 9:00:13 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Steal was going to happen anyways.

They tried it in 2016 and weren’t expecting the massive turnout for Trump so it didn’t work.

This time they were ready for the presidential election, although, again, they were so over confident about the House that they ignored that and it didn’t work this time.

Next time, they will make sure they have every election and office sewed up right down to dog catcher.

You don’t kneed COVID to steal an election as has been happening for decades.


44 posted on 01/01/2021 9:03:21 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Each was a product of a task. One on purpose, and one discovered later.

The covid was a way to fight Trump and force him to make moves he normally wouldn’t. Few of those were done as he wouldn’t play the game.

The game was to get him out of office. To do that they had to attack his main selling point...the economy he established. There have been many flu’s in the past, to include some recently that killed thousands in the U.S. The CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths “annually” since 2010 in the U.S. World wide in the millions. Yet, no state shut down. The same threat was there. But the up to date count as of this morning by the CDC indicates that of the 19,894,313 cases in the US total , there were 344,963 deaths. Our total population is right at 331M

Now considering that a number of those deaths were not by covid, as has been proven, I will use their numbers for point as it should indicate a worse problem instead of a easier one. Facts are, by their numbers, that 2% of the actual cases cause death and for the population of the US far less than 1% of the population die from covid, almost 1/10 of a percent.

In comparing this to something that takes a lot of lives in the US. In 2019, the last year totaled, there were 38,800 people killed in auto accidents. But there were 4.4 million people going to the hospital for them. So there were, at least 4.4M accidents. That makes it right at 1% of the accidents incur deaths. And this is down from 2017 forward. How come they didn’t shut down the roadways? Simple, they couldn’t blame Trump.

Oh, almost forgot. The second thing was using it to get the elections into the mail so it could be manipulated in a number of ways, and was. This I think was an afterthought that worked like the first attempt.

wy69


45 posted on 01/01/2021 9:08:13 AM PST by whitney69 (")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Covid. It permitted government to use it to steal the election.


46 posted on 01/01/2021 9:09:45 AM PST by mware (RETIRED)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s the steal. It’s now common knowledge among politicians that they don’t need our votes. They can buy all the votes they need from Dominion, and pay for them with our money. They can inflict mass destruction on us, beyond the destruction of COVID-19, and there is no one to stop them. We are no longer a government of the People, and most of our neighbors don’t care, as long as they get their stimulus checks.


47 posted on 01/01/2021 9:09:54 AM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ )
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To: crusty old prospector

The economics was the greatest “steal” of all. A booming economy, gaining speed all the time, then KABLOOEY! it all blows up, grinding to an almost dead halt while the coffers at every level of government were swiftly emptied out.

That was the real chaos, not the disease, and not all the consequences have been properly evaluated even yet, perhaps not for years to come. C)VID-19 Wuhan virus was only the trigger, and it wasn’t even that much of a threat, only the response to its eruption.

How did “two weeks” of “lockdown” turn into as much as ten months in so many localities?

The vote steal was a separate crime, carried out under the cover of other chaotic events occurring coincidentally.


48 posted on 01/01/2021 9:13:17 AM PST by alloysteel (No night is so dark, that it cannot fall into an absolute blackness. But hope springs eternal.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Before I say this, I want to make clear that I am NOT an anti-vaxer. I am, however, a “do not trust the government” kinda gal.

Initially I was happy about the vaccine.
Then I had time to ponder it.
I’m EXTREMELY WARY of anything the MSM and government tries to PUSH on us. And this looks like something they want to FORCE upon us despite:

*vaccine only provides a couple of months immunity
*authorities say that it would take until next FALL to have everyone vaccinated.
*At the rate things are going, by the time 2 quarters of the population are vaccinated, those in the first round have already lost their immunity.
*members of congress and MSM SHUT DOWN any talk of therapeutics and SMEAR any doctor, no matter how well-credentialed, if they dare talk of therapeutics, particularly HCQ, or more recently, Ivermectin.
*They won’t allow doctors to prescribe Ivermectin, threaten their licenses and say “There isn’t enough data. More clinical trials are needed, yet won’t fund or even allow more trials.”
*MSM says “Ivermectin claims have been debunked” without providing the data to support this.
*Anyone here who does not know what I’m talking about, check this out and read about this team of doctors. I surely trust THEM over any elected official ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
https://covid19criticalcare.com/i-mask-prophylaxis-treatment-protocol/

*Govt wants to FORCE us to get a shot and yet they say the shot only protects the person who gets it, NOT people we come in contact with. They say we could still get and carry the virus.
*What the HELL happened to “my body, my choice”?

I find it bizarre that the LEFT was all up in arms about operation warp speed, telling us NOT to trust a vaccine that was rolled out quickly under Trump. But after it didn’t roll out until after the election, suddenly the vaccine is SO GOOD and we all must be forced to take it! Now the switch has completely flipped. IF the Dems want to force me to take something, I know it must be poison.


49 posted on 01/01/2021 9:13:37 AM PST by a real Sheila (WuFlu be gone!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Hard call, but I say THE STEAL is the worst!
It has set the county on a dark path of which we won’t likely recover in the lifetimes of those of us here reading this post. In fact, it sets an easy path for future plagues, used to control the populations, behavior and size.


50 posted on 01/01/2021 9:16:32 AM PST by a real Sheila (WuFlu be gone!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The steal. We have a vaccine against COVID. By this summer its nothing. The steal is the death of the republic and the country.


51 posted on 01/01/2021 9:19:09 AM PST by Bommer (I'm a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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To: Seruzawa

@40 Hope you are wrong. Wish I could argue you are, but really can’t. Cheers


52 posted on 01/01/2021 9:22:27 AM PST by week 71
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To: alloysteel
Have you watched this? It picks up about five minutes into it after global currency discussion.

Planet Lockdown

53 posted on 01/01/2021 9:23:57 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: alloysteel
Sorry, for some reason that link didn’t work. Try this.

Planet Lockdown

54 posted on 01/01/2021 9:27:16 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Responsibility2nd
Maybe. But let’s not also forget that The Steal was made possible in part because of the riots in Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle and other places.

Perhaps.

I suspect the riots created more support for Trump than he lost.

At best, I think it was a wash for them.

55 posted on 01/01/2021 9:42:22 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: Responsibility2nd

The steal. Communist/Socialist countries kill a hell of alot more of their own citizens than most virus’s do.


56 posted on 01/01/2021 9:42:50 AM PST by DCBryan1 (COMDEMS would rather rule over a pile of ashes, than lose to Trump and REAL Americans)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Steal was the worst crisis because it presents an existential threat to the Constitutional republic set up by our founding fathers and the American way of life. If its perpetrators get away with it, The Steal will be the beginning of the transformation of America into a banana republic unless the American people rise up and demand election reform—secure voter ID, no electronic or mail-in ballots and poll watchers to insure a fair count.


57 posted on 01/01/2021 9:43:07 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: hawkaw; Chode; All

As My 1st POST of the Year i will again say that the chicoms and iranians made the chicom plague and spread it Worldwide.


58 posted on 01/01/2021 9:50:39 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The Steal, by far. COVID will pass (not the least of the reasons being that the easily-manipulated PCR test used improperly to diagnose it will be manipulated again to show the “success” of vaccinations and/or the “wise and heroic” Biden Administration).

But the Steal is forever - the face of our politics will change forever, literally. 20 million or more illegals from Turd World shitholes will be made into citizens and the gates opened for millions more, resulting in Trump being the last Republican President (even without cheating...which will continue and get worse anyway). In point of fact, the in-your-face nature of The Steal was about more than “defeating” Trump, it was about destroying our Republic by destroying any confidence in our electoral system. How many millions (mostly conservative) will refuse to waste their time voting if the people who did this aren’t punished and nothing is done to prevent it from happening again? That this will (or already has) destroyed the Republic means nothing (nothing bad, that is) to the Leftists at all, so long as it advances their lustful dream of absolute power to a reality.

Oh, Covid was used as a tool to effectuate The Steal, but it’s use as a tool proves that it is of far lesser importance than The Steal itself.

2020 was our early 1917 (the overthrow of the old system, equivalent to the abdication of the Czar). 2021 will see our weak equivalent of Kerensky come in and rule for a little while, very badly, and then his replacement with a Communist government. Perhaps we will have until 2022, who knows; but the result is IMHO baked into the cake. After that will be our civil war (and, just like with Russia’s of a century ago, it will include foreign troops on our soil) - let’s hope that the anti-Communist side does better this time around.

Covid? Pffft, a minor footnote to History in 10-20 years. The Steal, and it’s murder of our Republic that has existed for nearly a quarter of a millennium and which protected and expanded freedom around the world for the last century, at least - THAT is the biggest story in several lifetimes, not just 2020.


59 posted on 01/01/2021 9:53:08 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Covid is temporary. The steal changes everything. Obama said that he wanted to fundamentally change the country ... the Dems are giving it their best shot.


60 posted on 01/01/2021 9:55:23 AM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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