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To: Vendome

I work in hospitals and they’re full of COVID patients from the Thanksgiving surge. More people together, more COVID.

You’re incorrect that recoveries aren’t tracked, see here for an example:

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards

The mortality rate is between 1-2%, has gotten somewhat lower with the new treatments.

If there’s a second Christmas/New Year’s surge, it will break many hospitals. They won’t be available to new patients with things like heart attacks and strokes.

This is a real problem. Call me fake news if you’d like, but to say we should ignore it and not physically separate if we’re able to ignores reality.


15 posted on 12/25/2020 5:07:31 PM PST by PATed
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To: PATed

I dont understand how people can think COVID isnt a problem..but at this point I am like-—whatever..

For those of you that follow texags site with their VERIFIED doctors...Dr Rev’s wife has Covid and he has symptoms.

So we will see how well he does on his protocol.


22 posted on 12/25/2020 5:16:58 PM PST by RummyChick (I BLAME KUSHNER)
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To: PATed

the PCR test is what is fake. It’s a 40 cycle test provably 70-90% inacurrate, as in creating false positives.

How many flu’s do you have? zero?


42 posted on 12/25/2020 5:54:48 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: PATed

Don’t believe it. I’m supposed to believe “they” told us to stay in for months but then say staying in for ONE DAY on Thanksgiving with 4 others causes a surge?

BS

Now I’m supposed to believe that for the last 8 months hospitals were practically empty because of Covid fears and docs worried people weren’t getting other screenings and treatments but NOW they are full?

BS


53 posted on 12/25/2020 6:26:12 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republican Party is DEAD. Rot in hell ALL of them!)
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To: PATed
"The mortality rate is between 1-2%, has gotten somewhat lower with the new treatments."

I'm surprised at the lack of information about the effects of the disease on those who live through it. How many people have other noticeable medical problems? Are their medical bills expensive? Are many employees absent from their jobs for long? How many are likely disabled for noticeable periods of time?

And what about those costs to our economy? Loses incurred by Booger King, El Maggot, local bars and micro-gyms might pale in comparison.

70 posted on 12/25/2020 7:15:49 PM PST by familyop
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To: PATed
"I work in hospitals and they’re full of COVID patients from the Thanksgiving surge. More people together, more COVID. You’re incorrect that recoveries aren’t tracked, see here for an example: https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards The mortality rate is between 1-2%, has gotten somewhat lower with the new treatments. If there’s a second Christmas/New Year’s surge, it will break many hospitals. They won’t be available to new patients with things like heart attacks and strokes. This is a real problem. Call me fake news if you’d like, but to say we should ignore it and not physically separate if we’re able to ignores reality."

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I don't disagree with your description of the current situation in many locals.

I just spent Christmas night in the ER at Eisenhower Medical Center with a blockage in my small intestine.

The ER was crazy. After an initial screening, I had to wait over an hour sitting in the waiting room for an ER room.

About 5:30am Saturday a room became available and I was moved into the hospital for tests and observation.

I received almost no information from staff of my test results or that I would be moved to the hospital when a room became available. I received this information from cell messages from my worried wife at home, who was able to reach a hospital case manager.

IMHO, because of Covid19 protocols, hospitals have become much less efficient and much much more difficult for staff and patients.

Imagine what it is like for staff having to treat every person who walks through the door and remains in the facility as if they will infect them. Imagine continually having a long q tip shoved up your nose, wearing a mask for the whole shift, getting needles shoved in your arm, doing without your volunteer staff, etc. etc.

Also, look at it from the patients view: start with the fact you can no longer have an advocate there to be your ears and eyes or that the hospital staff is overworked and stressed or that you are treated as an infection about to spread through everyone in the facility.

BUT, what would the current situation be if Doctors were encouraged rather than demanded not to use all the tools in the tool box, especially for early treatment. Tools like:

Hydrochloroquine

Ivermectin

Budesonide Nebulizer

If these protocols were in place, wouldn't the likely infected have been more ready to seek early treatment instead of waiting until they were very sick?

If there had been transparency of the prophylactic use of some of these protocols including the benefits of vitamin c and d and zinc, how many would not have been infected or have easier recovery with infection?

IMHO, this will go down as one of the most EVIL misinformation campaigns in world history.

114 posted on 12/27/2020 12:29:19 PM PST by Jamie Von - conspiracytheorist
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